To find the royal family fascinating?

[MagicKingdomDizzy]

Don't want to make this a TAAT, so I'll just say I have enjoyed everyone's observations on the royal family and it's made a boring weekend go much quicker

Please continue if you wish to......

Hmmm wonder why she was given this .,..

Kate is made a Dame Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6973085/Kate-Dame-Grand-Cross-Royal-Victorian-Order-eight-wedding-anniversary.html

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More stories of older royals please! I’m loving them and realising how much of history I’m ignorant of.

The Mayerling Incident is definitely one of the most interesting things I've read about regarding a royal family. Not only because of the event itself, but because of its implications for the course of history. Without it we may not have had World War One, and in turn, World War Two!

That’s kind of Liz. The article says she gave Camilla the same award on her anniversary.

Kate has quite the mouthful of a title now!

Hmmm wonder why she was given this .,..

Kate is made a Dame Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order

It's like the family order - they all get it eventually.

Camilla got it 7 years after the wedding, Sophie 10 years so 8 years is about right for Kate.

Coinciding with the affair ....

@Lyralalala I LOVE Princess Alice! She is my favourite, then Helena. Alice was so strong, she was amazing. Such a sad, premature death.

@MagicKingdomDizzy- I think it might have been a documentary on YouTube. If I find it, I'll link. The other children were very kind to Johnnie, I think but Edward definitely forgot his tone when writing to Queen Mary - his mother- about the death of her child, and wrote a letter to Wallis that wasn't very kind about Johnnie and his capabilities.

Isn't the Royal Victorian Order something they all get eventually by being part of the family long enough? Like a long service bonus? Meghan will accrue one in time, I'm sure!

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Coinciding with the affair ....

I thought the same

It's accompanied by a nice puff piece about their marriage and how happy they are.

Convenient

I fell down the rabbit hole with Zizi from a previous poster. Found it fascinating that the last crown prince of Austria-Hungary became an MEP, as did his elder son (who is officially single, laydees, being divorced). Apparently Otto once kicked Ian Paisley out of the parliament chamber 😂

Also @MagicKingdomDizzy, Austria & Hungary still love Sissi, go to Vienna and Budapest. On the tourist side-there are loads of things named after her -Empress Elisabeth or Sissi hotels and restaurants etc (one of which offered to let me stay in the "Special Sissi Room"), there's an exhibit/tour at Schonbrun about her childhood and she's depicted on lots of merch. I think they have a sweet made for her- a Sissi Star, I think?

On the less touristy side they are genuinely in awe of her life and really love her and want to promote her as a historical figure. I think it's actually described as "Sissi-cult", the admiration/love that still abounds for her.

Also, back to Russian jewels- didn't the Russian Crown Jewels eventually turn up under Eammon De Valera's DMs bed?

Does anyone else think RH looks like Alyssa Edwards from Drag Race?

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She's sort of a Princess Diana of her time. Really captured her people's hearts.

Princess Diana

astroinsightsblog.wordpress.com/2015/02/18/what-astrology-reveals-about-the-real-princes-diana/

"She is also said to have had a tendency to get fixated with people.

The art dealer, Oliver Hoare, for instance, had to call the police after his home was bombarded by over 300 silent crank calls – thought to have been made by the Princess of Wales, after she supposedly developed an obsessive crush on him."

I'd forgotten about this, but it's all come flooding back!

Saavhi for a minute there I thought you meant Roisin, Ted Hasting's wife in Line of Duty, and I thought I was on the wrong thread

But what does a grand dame of the Victoria Cross actually do? Surely it’s a badge. Is it like the blue Peter badge that gets Kate into stately homes for free?

There was a Steven Poliakoff drama about Prince John -The Lost Price on the Beeb years back. It was excellent and covers the build up to the First World War and the Romanovs.

Well worth a watch.

Lost Prince is on YouTube and will lead you to some good royal docs- pretty sure that's how I heard that letter story.

Royal Victorian Order is for personal service to sovereign and is given out by the reigning Monarch. That's the c+ answer, anyway!

The Lost Prince was indeed excellent, worth it for the cinematography alone; I just love Poliakoff's artistry

But what does a grand dame of the Victoria Cross actually do? Surely it’s a badge. Is it like the blue Peter badge that gets Kate into stately homes for free?

It's a sash and a brooch.

The brooch is like a star shaped and the sash is a royal blue.

I'll find a pic and post it.

So it is purely a badge then? “Here love, I haven’t got you a present but have this badge and some letters after your name. Off you trot. Walk on!”

I've really enjoyed this thread, and I've learned alot! We're coming up to the end (wasn't expecting that when I started it!).

If there's interest for a thread 2 I'll continue it, or we can just let it run to the end......

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This is Camilla wearing her order (and her family order)

lookingelsewhere - that was an interesting documentary on Charles' "mistresses". Poor Kanga.

The whole idea that the upper classes marry for breeding purposes, and apparently the women go along with that because in that set women don't have careers, so a good marriage is aimed for. Kanga set up her own successful clothing business, but apparently that's "trade".

As for the mistresses, well I guess the only other aspiration a woman could have is to become the mistress of the Prince of Wales, what with the elevated status that would give her.

It's all very archaic.

cafetierecoffee it’s basically a thanks for service to the monarch.

@magickingdomdizzy I’d be happy with another thread, it’s been interesting and fun so far.

If there's interest for a thread 2 I'll continue it

Yes please