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To find the royal family fascinating?

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MagicKingdomDizzy · 28/04/2019 14:26

Don't want to make this a TAAT, so I'll just say I have enjoyed everyone's observations on the royal family and it's made a boring weekend go much quicker Grin

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nelsonmuntzslingshot · 29/04/2019 17:58

Magic could be but the cynic in me questions if the press even knew - there were no reported hospital stays etc (as there was with Kate and her extreme morning sickness). Apparently MM’s I’ll judged decision to announce on PE’s wedding day caused an awful lot of animosity with Andrew, Fergie et al.

lyralalala · 29/04/2019 17:58

I could read about the Romanovs all day long. Such interesting but tragic lives.

My 'royal I read all I can about' is Princess Alice. Her life just couldn't have been further from the fairytale princess image.

She nursed her grandmother, the Duchess of Kent, then was her mother, Queen Victoria's support through that.

She was the one who kept the court running while her mother mourned Prince Albert. Her wedding was shortly after her father's death and although she insisted it go ahead the way Queen Victoria was meant it was a thoroughly miserable wedding.

She then went off to Darmstadt to build her married life. There was tension between her mother and husband as her husband was too skint to build a home 'befitting' of a daughter of QV (and the people of Darmstadt weren't willing to pay).

Her husband went to war while she was pregnant, and the war put her on the opposite side to her sister Victoria.

Her youngest son fell out of a window and the internal bleeding due to his haemophilia killed him.

Her daughter Marie died of diptheria during an outbreak in which everyone bar her youngest child had it (she had been sent away to her Grandmothers). She kissed her son to comfort him over his sisters death and caught it herself, then she also died.

The tragedies continued - Her daughter Alix married the Tsar. One of her other daughters married Sergei and even though he was long dead and she a nun she was also murdered by the Bolsheviks.
Her grandson, Louis Mountbatten, was murdered by the IRA.

Such a sad lineage. Although her great-grandson, Prince Philip, hasn't done too badly.

lyralalala · 29/04/2019 18:01

I thought it had been cleared up by the palace that the royal family already knew about the pregnancy, but that it was the first time some of them had seen Harry and Meghan since the news and that's why there was some congratulating? As opposed to actually announcing it at the wedding?

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 29/04/2019 18:02

Theo Aronson wrote loads of fascinating biographies of Royals.
“Grandmama of Europe» talks about all her descendants down to her grandchildren.

HillRunner · 29/04/2019 18:05

This is such nonsense. MM may have announced to the family close to the wedding day, but it has been stated that she didn't announce on the day. And given that she had a small bump in photos taken very soon afterwards, it was going to become known around that time anyway. People seem to be looking for excuses to slate her, when she hasn't done anything wrong, and all the wide eyed "we love meghan" stuff is just bitchiness.

Give the woman a break ffs.

HillRunner · 29/04/2019 18:06

Yes, lyralalala, that's exactly what is meant to have happened.

Whizzler · 29/04/2019 18:09

Eugenie had a lavish whopper of a multi-day wedding. I doubt MM's pregnancy announcement took too much attention from her!

7Days · 29/04/2019 18:10

Probably none of the other guests bought the I'm on Antibiotics excuse.

TooManyPaws · 29/04/2019 18:12

I think Edward VIII was a different kettle of fish from the rest of them, very self-centred. From what I can remember from reading, his other brothers were kind to Prince John and he had spent the morning of the day he died walking with his sister. It seems that Buckingham Palace was too busy and noisy for him as he grew up so they arranged for him to live somewhere peaceful that he knew and where the villagers would accept him as he was. They apparently also made sure that his bedroom had a view of the railway line as he loved trains. A letter Queen Mary wrote was a mixture of grief and relief that he was now at peace from his worsening seizures.

I read that the close family knew about Baby Sussex before the wedding because of the implications for the tour but it was the first time they'd all physically met up so congratulations. Eugenie didn't seem bothered and the papers are now suggesting that her own happy announcement is on hold until after the arrival of Baby Sussex 😁 Also that Beatrice is so keen to start a family that she doesn't care if she has a shotgun wedding g. 😁

MagicKingdomDizzy · 29/04/2019 18:12

nelsonmuntzslingshot

I can understand why they were pissed off!

lyralalala

Wow, Princess Alice. What a life she led!

Princess Sissi (Elisabeth of Bavaria) is another one I love to read about. The original fairytale princess story that didn't quite work out.

She was the mother of Prince Rudolf whose suicide (The Mayerling Incident) helped trigger the first world war as his death led to the succession of Franz Ferdinand.

She was eventually assassinated Sad

These people lived really incredible lives!

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nelsonmuntzslingshot · 29/04/2019 18:15

Ok. I’m not going to say anything further as it wouldn’t be fair for this thread to disappear. However anyone with a calendar and half a brain can see that it was totally unnecessary to announce a pregnancy on or around the beginning of October 2018.

AppleKatie · 29/04/2019 18:18

More stories of older royals please! I’m loving them and realising how much of history I’m ignorant of.

justasking111 · 29/04/2019 18:20

Two of my friends were pregnant at my wedding I did not mind at all. It was such a small part of the day I was happy for them when folk congratulated them.

HillRunner · 29/04/2019 18:21

Her bump was visible here, 6 days after the wedding. She had to announce at around that time because it was becoming obvious.

And she didn't do it on the day. What do you want from her? Blood?

www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2018/10/18/pregnant-meghan-markles-baby-bump-pictured-for-the-first-time-on-royal-tour-of-australia-8050711/amp/

catofaragon · 29/04/2019 18:31

@nelsonmuntzslingshot I agree. She may not have announced it on the day but she turned up wearing a coat buttoned in such a way that people immediately began to speculate. I like Meghan, but I didn't like her actions that day. It was Eugenie's day. She could have worn something else. A few days before she wore a green leather straight skirt with no visible bump.

justasking111 · 29/04/2019 18:32

The Daily Fail being disingenuous again not moderating comments on their website. Someone will be burning the midnight oil deleting them when the poop hits the fan.

TooManyPaws · 29/04/2019 18:33

If you remember, there were also a lot of implications for the tour and whether DoS would be able to go to Fiji and Tonga because of her pregnancy and the risk of Zika. I vaguely remember that there was talk of her remaining in either Australia or New Zealand while Harry went alone. I should think that was one of the reasons for announcing. They also had to build in a lot of short rests for her during the day as she was apparently exhausted though not puking like the DoC.

Pengrin · 29/04/2019 18:34

Ok Hill don’t blow a fuse. We all love MM here.

lookingelsewhere · 29/04/2019 18:35

Harry looks sooo pissed off in this video at the Royal Albert Hall? Why? Some say there were boos in the crowd. I strained my ears and couldn't really hear them. He looked totally off, for whatever reason.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=pINa7ExNjKA

MagicKingdomDizzy · 29/04/2019 18:38

lookingelsewhere

Harry looks sooo pissed off in this video at the Royal Albert Hall? Why? Some say there were boos in the crowd. I strained my ears and couldn't really hear them. He looked totally off, for whatever reason.

Yes I saw that video too. He looks very very annoyed! That's the expression on my face when I've had my two kids going at each other all day, and I'm about to blow my top! Grin

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lookingelsewhere · 29/04/2019 18:39

There used to be a video on youTube of Kate and William very visibly having cross words in public. It seems to have disappeared...

Whizzler · 29/04/2019 18:40

You can hear what sounds like one male voice booing two or three times from .09 - .19 seconds.

lookingelsewhere · 29/04/2019 18:40

That's the expression on my face when I've had my two kids going at each other all day, and I'm about to blow my top!

LOL. His kids haven't even been born yet - good luck with that, Harry!

lookingelsewhere · 29/04/2019 18:42

"You can hear what sounds like one male voice booing two or three times from .09 - .19 seconds*

Thanks - focusing in on that part, I can just tune my ears into that now.

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