Or is the new series of GOT a bit shit?

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Just that really... the last two episodes have been so slow!

Up to the most recent series, Martin collaborated with the show’s producers and wrote at least one episode each series.
When it was clear that the show would outpace the books, Martin and the show’s producers agreed an ending. Martin said in an interview that they would arrive at the same end point although they might reach it through a different means.
I think that both books and TV are fabulous in their different ways.

Can I just say I'm so glad for my choice of username

promising material has been reduced to the tropes it was once so good at subverting.

Not what GoT was about. When the main character of season 1 was killed off, it wasn't even the series finale! That's GoT. In a big battle

I tend to agree with this. But I think it applies whether or not you have read the books or not because those themes did translate across in the earlier series.

Speaking of someone who hasn't read the books all the way through (don't shoot! Just couldn't get into them and for me it's the one exception to the rule that the books better - I enjoyed the show so much that the books were actually spoiling my experience of watching!)... the reason I loved the show at the start was for similar reasons - taking such an anti-Hollywood/cliche driven stance and totally screwing with well worn conventions and viewer expectations.

As for the episode itself, the BBC review put it well - "There are great moments, obviously. The episode's first act is a masterclass in fear and tension" but "when it comes to character deaths - a hugely overhyped aspect of this episode, which in reality planned out as a series of safe and predictable choices".

I'm also wondering what happens now that the NK is gone. Maybe the threat is not actually gone? But It sort of feels like we've prematurely climaxed and now have to go around finishing everything else off!

I'm very willing to be proved wrong however. Maybe this is all part of a bigger plan to subvert our expectations. Fingers crossed the remaining episodes totally mix things up.

People watching the show have a lot invested into it. People can be disappointed and frustrated, that’s not the issue but the knobbish view that reading the books makes you more of a fan or better then the lowly peasants who just watch it on tv.

I've read all of the books and a couple of chapters that were released from the next book. I see the books and the series as pretty separate and have really enjoyed both.

I love the show and think the production values and performances are excellent.

Read the books yonks ago but did find myself having to keep paging back to remember what had happened sometimes! (and I read a lot of fairly complicated fantasy & sci fi in between chick lit)

Really joined the thread to say I'm emotionally spent after watching episode 3! Bloody hell! Can't see me making Avengers Endgame at the cineam until next week I just can't take any more

@LannieDuck you are the first person I've came across who echoes my sentiments. I thought it was a disappointing episode personally. Oh well still looking forward to next week!

The only thing which disappointed me when we caught up with episode three tonight, was how dark the filming was. As in, the screen itself. It was difficult to make out what was happening and I'm hoping it was just my shitty hearing which is responsible for comments etc which I missed. I've loved the series and am enjoying watching it but I can never understand why film makers can't make it a little easier for us to actually watch what's going on.we tried watching in the dark but that just seemed to make my hearing worse because I was tuning in to every tiny sound around us in the home

But as evidenced on here, plenty of people are just in it for the big battle scenes, goody vs baddy showdowns and are happy enough so 🤷‍♀️

It’s hardly Shakespeare 😄

Glad the night king's gone. Glad it was Arya who did it.

Three episodes is about right:

Sort Cersei out.
With virtually no army left.
Either Jon or Dany to die in the process.
Resolution.

I think looking back I would have loved a one on one fight between Jon Snow and the Night King

It’s hardly Shakespeare

Not Shakespeare no, but the source material is very rich. Perhaps too rich as he’s clearly struggling to bring it to a conclusion, what with all the back stories, sub plots and foreshadowing going on.

GOT is very dense with lots of machinations, scheming and subplots woven throughout

It’s a lot richer than Shakespeare actually and some of those lines are pure poetry!!

I’ll take it over Shakespeare anyday

Anyone watched this week's yet?

Yes. Have you? 😢

This week’s episode can get absolutely fucked.

I said to DP as the fleet was sailing in “those dragons are a bit exposed there, not very subtle.”

AND THEN

@downcasteyes
I refuse to watch GoT. Adults watching a show where people wave swords around at dragons = embarassing.

and yet here you are, talking about it?

I haven't been that impressed. This whole series has been a bit slow. Maybe it's just been built up too much?
5 and 6 better be brilliant!!

CaptainCabinets I agree, and why didn't the dragons just attack the fleet from behind? The crossbow weren't pointing backwards...

Best bit of the whole thing was Bronn.

I thought the previous episode was amazing but today's episode is beyond shit.

I don’t understand the hatred! I enjoyed so many of the scenes - I thought the Brienne-Jamie scene was very well done and believable. I also enjoyed Ayra and the Hound together again, and I think Sansa is so astute now. Interesting to see exactly which road they will go down with daenrys in the end.

When Rheargar (?) was killed why didn't Dany fly Drogon around the attacking fleet and burn them all up from behind or the side?

crispy Yes, I like Sansa this season too. Not sure where they're going with her.....

Nooo I'm loving it! I thought the latest one was mega tense, I can't figure anyone out! There's definitely an underlying sense of doom unlike any of the other seasons which makes me worry I'm going to hate the ending though.

It struck me this eve how odd it is without the various sub-plots and characters going on. Still great, but definitely a different vibe.

Anyway, YABU!

But as much as I love them both, Jaime and Brienne is a no-no 🙈