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To think that if a landlord evicts you ie makes you homeless to sell you shouldn't get stiffed for cleaning charges by the agent when you move out?

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Bleddry · 13/04/2019 17:07

Clean your own house if you want to sell it you tightwad.

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Bleddry · 13/04/2019 20:17

LOL yes and it's not even someone else's mortgage. They bought it in 1996 so the mortgage if they had one was paid off long ago after years of market rent. The market rent that I went out and worked for was just extra cash to them. And then I had to clean it.

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Jon65 · 13/04/2019 20:23

It's none of your business what the personal circumstances of the landlord are. If it's in your contract to clean the property to a professional standard, then you need to fulfil your part of the bargain. You sound immature and entitled. Perhaps you aren't ready to live on your own yet, are you able to move back in with parents?

Bleddry · 13/04/2019 20:25

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PCohle · 13/04/2019 20:27

Why should I have broken my arse cleaning someone else's house that they're selling to another person and making me homeless in the process.

Because you agreed to in a legally binding contract. Obviously this has been a very distressing experience for you and you feel it is unfair, but you are merely being held to the terms of an agreement you willingly entered into.

To the extent you feel you are not (ie you feel you did clean to a professional standard) you are able to dispute this with the deposit guarantee scheme.

Jon65 · 13/04/2019 20:37

If the tenant was evicted with a warrant of eviction she will get notthing back from the deposit scheme, the landlord is entitled to their costs. If there was no warrant preceded by a possession order then she has not been evicted, merely asked to leave, and there is a huge difference.

NoParticularPattern · 13/04/2019 20:37

I’m not a tenant any more, but I absolutely get where your coming from. It’s a shit situation which as much as PP would like you to, you can’t remove the emotion from when it’s YOUR situation. It’s incredibly galling to go to the trouble of cleaning the place to a good standard and then have them then round and tell you it wasn’t good enough so you’ll have to pay anyway. You literally might as well have not bothered and you’d have been no worse off financially, plus you wouldn’t have had to spend hours/days cleaning the place in an effort not to have that money taken from you. I get that there are levels of cleaning- I’m a cleaner who does exactly this sort of cleaning on a regular basis- but if you’d known they were just going to say it needed a professional clean anyway you’d have saved yourself time and effort and just had it “clean enough”.

kaytee87 · 13/04/2019 20:40

You're not 'doing their job for them', you've cleaned up after yourself like any responsible adult. If you've left in what you consider to be a clean state then you should contest the deduction.
You sound really unpleasant op but I'll assume it's because you're angry. This is the way renting works, you're living in someone else's property for a fee, you're entitled to quiet enjoyment of it but not profit from a sale or the right live there for as long as you want etc. You also have to take care of the property - return it in a similar state to how you found it. That's the deal.
You shouldn't have to pay double council tax, you should be able to get that refunded.

Bleddry · 13/04/2019 20:44

Truefriends yeah I think you're right they're just bastards. Petty bastards at that because what's a hundred quid to them.

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Bleddry · 13/04/2019 20:47

Oh great so my post gets deleted but the PA shit from other people is still there. Quick with the report button aren't you Jon.

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Winchestermom35 · 13/04/2019 20:50

Our landlord sold our last house.

Was put on the market 2/3 months after we’d just signed up for another year.

We paid for a professional cleaner when we moved out. It was sparkling. His sale completed 2 days later.

We wanted our deposit back so we fulfilled our end of the tenancy agreement.

Bleddry · 13/04/2019 20:51

Ok

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PCohle · 13/04/2019 21:00

Petty bastards at that because what's a hundred quid to them.

How do you know anything about your landlord's financial circumstances?

watsmyname · 13/04/2019 21:19

Op did you not have the letting agent view the house upon leaving to agree that the cleaning was up to an appropriate standard.

You have no idea why the landlord wants to sell or if they have to. I have sympathy you are losing your home but you had a contract for a set time and to expect that a landlord sign to your tune (even if it doesn't work for them) is at best naive.

I have rented for years and have never once paid for cleaning out of my deposit - I did it myself. This post is bitter about you being evicted rather than whether it's right you should clean.

Also to pp's who are saying the landlord is screwing op for every penny obviously aren't reading the updates as they are looking for £100. Maybe some areas were missed eg the oven? Easily £40 to get oven cleaned.

Jon65 · 13/04/2019 21:21

Op you presume much but know very little.

CheshireChat · 13/04/2019 21:30

TBF I think LL should be responsible for more than a normal deep clean- so they should pay if they want things cleaned to a professional standard.

Ideally, they should do that after they tackle any issues due to wear and tear that are beyond the remit of the person who was renting.

Obviously, the person renting shouldn't trash the place either.

Eslteacher06 · 13/04/2019 21:36

I think the lesson is...take photos on the first and last day, keep any receipts for evidence and make sure they use the deposit service so it's with a third part.

SilverySurfer · 13/04/2019 21:37

YABVU. We get that you cleaned it but did you clean it to the same standard as when you moved in? If not the law permits them to retain a portion of your deposit to pay for it.

I appreciate you are unhappy at having to move but it is the landlord's property and he is entitled to sell it if he wants/needs to.

Petty bastards at that because what's a hundred quid to them.

You're being absurd and have no idea if he can afford it or not.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/04/2019 21:38

They bought it in 1996 so the mortgage if they had one was paid off long ago after years of market rent. The market rent that I went out and worked for was just extra cash to them

Can I ask how you know all this?

And you keep saying you were "made homeless", but also that you've "got another place" ... not sure how that equates to homelessness?

gamerchick · 13/04/2019 21:41

Oh great so my post gets deleted but the PA shit from other people is still there. Quick with the report button aren't you Jon

Maybe your landlord is around Wink parasites they are. Think they've got it made with their subsidised little nest egg and are untouchable. Really can't wait until the rugs been pulled and renters can't be turfed out with 2 months notice.

Someone has come on who has lost their home on a whim and needed to vent. Not a scrap of empathy from a lot of these posts.

Bleddry · 13/04/2019 21:45

Can I ask how you know all this?

Rightmove. Bought for £36000 in 1996, on the market now for £185000. Market rent £750 pcm. They can afford £100. Or they can pay for a bloody cleaner themselves. If you lose your home you're homeless.

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GreytExpectations · 13/04/2019 21:49

Good go OP, you certainly are an angry one, arent you? I can see that your thread is basically saying you already cleanrd the house, LL didnt approve and you are now questioning why you should have had to clean in the first place?
Because you signed a legal agreement that states you have to. You are the one being petty with your assumptions and bad attitude. Stop with this pity party

Bleddry · 13/04/2019 21:50

The two years rent they got off me alone is half of what they paid for that place. Don't tell me to clean washing machine drawers.

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GreytExpectations · 13/04/2019 21:52

If you lose your home you're homeless.

No. If you lose you home, then are without a home you are homeless. If you do not have a home at all and are living at friends, family, shelters or worse on the street than you are homeless.

You got evicted, found another house and therefore have a home. You were not homeless.

Bleddry · 13/04/2019 21:52

Yeah greyt shame that all tenants who are evicted don't skip off into the sunset waving daffodils and singing at trees. This is what it looks like.

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Bleddry · 13/04/2019 21:55

You don't like it, look away.

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