Do you think there will be a 2nd referendum?

[oweus]

Many of my friends and acquaintances seem to think so. I still think it's unlikely.

I’m happy with the new leaving date. Hopefully they can get some thing sorted now. Medication trade was a concern for me.

I think the new date is a disaster.
Our only strong point was No Deal - which doesn’t mean no trade. We are a massive market to the EU and they want to sell to us as much as we need to import.
Now they have extra time to find new markets the same as us. So the advantage of using existing arrangements has been lost.

The more I hear about it the worse it seems. No time for anything meaningful but, as I've just heard on the radio, time for TM to be replaced by someone awful. I feel very bleak about this today...

There needs to be a minimum of 10 weeks for a new referendum stillpinching. Plenty of time.

People's vote now! Let's get on with it!

I don't think TM is going anywhere, they won't risk a GE and she's safe from a no confidence vote. I bloody hope so anyway. I'm a remainer and not her greatest fan, but I don't think a change of PM now would be a good idea at all just more instability and the risk of one of the ERG taking the helm.

I'm glad about the new extension but just hope it actually gets put to some feckin use deal wise. Realistically I don't think revoke or a peoples vote will happen, they need to get a deal through.

I really hope there is.

They've surely no chance of getting her deal through now, it's so tainted and the right wingers she needs are now fixated on getting rid of her so won't come to her aid. Revoking with a view to starting again sounds good.

If people were campaigning for a second referendum less than a month ago with a leave date of tomorrow, I can't see why 6 months is now too short to organise one?

Wonder what all the people who want to set the 2016 referendum in stone make of the Swiss decision to anull one of their referendums that won by 51/49 ? In particular, what are the views about a court overturning a vote ?

Switzerland is of course an interesting country for Leavers to contemplate. They tried to game the EU by having a referendum that would have violated the principle of FoM. EU said "nice try sonnny" and the Swiss government had to basically ignore the will of the people in order to agree the treaty...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Swiss_immigration_initiative#European_Union_reactions

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47879777

The result of a nationwide referendum has been overturned for the first time in modern Switzerland's history.

The poll, held in February 2016, asked the country's voters whether married couples and co-habiting partners should pay the same tax.

Voters rejected the proposal, with 50.8% against and 49.2% in favour.

But the supreme court has now voided the result on the grounds that voters were not given full information, and the vote must be re-run.

We voted. A decision was made. Get on with it.

Please

BaconAndAvocado

Absolutely, we made that decision in 1975 and we should remain.

Or are we not allowed to change our mind?

We voted. A decision was made. Get on with it. Please.

Same old meaningless mantras. A very complex unworkable decision based on lies and misunderstanding and an ill-thought out referendum designed to keep the Tory party together rather than to IN ANY WAY benefit the country. Not a decision that can be or should be implemented. Not in my name nor my children's or grandchildren's. Please.

We voted again in 2017. Political parties who wanted to deliver a hard Brexit did not win a majority. The Conservative party has proceeded to rip itself to shreds over Brexit policy.

Replacing TM with a more Eurosceptic Brexiteer is not going to change the current HoC. The Brexiteers know that, which is why attempts to oust May often come across as a bit half-arsed. Trying to implement a ‘harder’ Brexit is an exercise in futility and MPs know it.

With the FPTP system, there is never going to be a majority in the HoC that supports a hard Brexit. It’s just not going to happen.

We voted. A decision was made. Get on with it.

What decision was that then? Which type of Brexit was voted for in 2016?

We voted. A decision was made. Get on with it

No implementable decision was made.

Basically, it’s never going to happen.

Fuck knows

DGRossetti
Switzerland is of course an interesting country for Leavers to contemplate.They tried to game the EU by having a referendum that would have violated the principle of FoM. EU said "nice try sonnny" and the Swiss government had to basically ignore the will of the people in order to agree the treaty...

I thought you were a Remain voter DGRossetti ?

You could have written that paragraph for the Vote Leave campaign.

Guardian politics live - Andrea Leadsom, the leader of the Commons, has just confirmed that, if MPs a motion on the order paper today, the house will rise for the Easter recess this afternoon and not return until Tuesday 23 April. And she has just announced the business for the first week after Easter, which does not include any Brexit indicative votes, or the introduction of the long-awaited EU withdrawal agreement bill.
So basically they've got an extension and the first thing they're going to do is fuck off on holiday. Nice sense of responsibility for the country, there.

I think there will be now. I think it'll be two choices , the agreed deal or revoke at least that way everyone will know exactly what is being voted for

I thought you were a Remain voter DGRossetti ? You could have written that paragraph for the Vote Leave campaign.

I'm a grown up Remain voter that deals in facts, not a petulant Leave voter that doesn't.

So basically they've got an extension and the first thing they're going to do is fuck off on holiday. Nice sense of responsibility for the country, there.

Why not - we could all use rest. Maybe Brexit won't seem such a great idea when they get back on St. Georges Day (nice touch there, to mark a Turkish saints day )

If Brexit is a good idea now, it'll still be a good idea then.

There's also more time to dig deeper into how far the Leave campaigns illegality goes, which I'm sure will be a source of good news for fans of law and order.

Good point needing a rest. Just a bit concerned that they want to pretend it's not a crisis. If it IS a crisis surely you keep going until it's solved? Tusk - don't waste the time - HOC - let's take the next couple of weeks off. It doesn't look good.

I'm a grown up Remain voter that deals in facts, not a petulant Leave voter that doesn't.

From your facts above - I'm getting; the EU is a bully who always wins, EU immigration cannot be controlled - and our government is so weak that it will "ignore the will of the people" to keep the EU happy.

The elite are doing their utmost to stop us leaving the EU. I think the leaving date will be delayed for a year, project fear will continue to run rampant until the lying MPs officially refuse to make a decision and then we have a second referendum between two remain options.

We were never going to be allowed to leave the EU, democracy is officially dead.

This.