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Do you think there will be a 2nd referendum?

256 replies

oweus · 10/04/2019 16:38

Many of my friends and acquaintances seem to think so. I still think it's unlikely.

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ChavvyOldBrexiteer · 10/04/2019 19:11

It looks like having a second referendum is on the cards.

I guess they will keep making us vote until they get the 'right' result.

The good news is that Leavers are as keen as ever and a growing number of Remainers have switched sides, partly due to their frustration as to how Parliament is trying to frustrate the vote.

So many Remainers didn't know what they were voting for so I think Leave could win with an even greater majority.

ChavvyOldBrexiteer · 10/04/2019 19:16

Also, The esteemed Nick Cleggy of Facebook insisted Nigel of Farage was lying about the proposed EU army.

Guess what, now the EU army is very much a thing as well as many other delights of closer integration.

He EU is a sinking ship - let's get out.

The trouble is that Remainers didn't know what they were voting for. 😍

SodaPoppins · 10/04/2019 19:16

The 'I voted for No Deal' people really piss me off.

That wasn't the question on the ballot or in the a Referendum Act. The paper the Home Office was required to publish, by the Act, said that if Leave won, we would seek to negotiate a deal (and one that gave us access to the single market).

The Leave Campaign's literature, sent to every home in the UK, also said we would negotiate a deal.

If someone thinks they voted for No Deal, apparently they didn't understand what they were voting in.

starfish2020 · 10/04/2019 19:17

Leave / stay
Why should I care
Other than feeling embarrassed to be British living in EU (for now)
So.......
I am not a politician but a normal working person who can already feel the effects of the dreaded Brexit
Maybe take a look at the wider pic and not just what’s in front of your nose chavvy

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 10/04/2019 19:18

people like you causing the shitshow in parliament

Yeah right Hmm

I haven't seen any mps who say they voted leave causing any problems in parliament at all

No sir not me

BoneyBackJefferson · 10/04/2019 19:21

YemenRoadYemen
I love that Brexiteers loathe the idea of putting putting something this monumental to the people, and argue it's 'undemocratic'. grin

Don't be a tit, the word your looking for is some, as in some brexiteers.

GoFiguire · 10/04/2019 19:21

Oh - did you see a plan when you voted to Leave....? 🔮

It was Baldrick’s cunning plan.

SweetSummerchild · 10/04/2019 19:22

If there is, can we get another general election as well ????

We most probably will. If this goes on much longer then there will be another vote of no confidence in the government and a GE.

A second referendum will be the price JC will have to pay in order to get the support of the SNP to prop up his minority government.

Sunshinegirl82 · 10/04/2019 19:25

I think the issue has always been that the referendum was fundamentally flawed. To my mind it was like asking the country:

Would you like to paint this room:

A) white; or
B) another colour?

Another colour won, fair enough. The question then is which colour? That has been the issue throughout, there is no consensus among "another colour" voters as to which colour they want. Quite a few are insisting that although they ticked "another colour" they actually voted to paint the room blue. But in reality, they didn't. Blue wasn't mentioned by anyone at the time. They might now want to paint the room blue but that doesn't mean it's what they actually voted for. Saying "another colour means blue" doesn't make it true.

If we've now identified that the only colour available is orange it seems sensible to me to say, ok, would you like orange or white? If a sensible majority voted orange then fair enough.

I voted white. Not because I love white or think it's the best colour we could ever hope to have but, based on the question I was asked, it was the most acceptable option to me as it was clearly defined and I knew what it meant.

Homefireburn1ng · 10/04/2019 19:26

They should have decided on the way we’d leave before the vote. They did if back to front and lied so now Brexiteers are bickering over hard, soft and Teresa’s deal. But they still like to blame it on remainers. Maybe if they’d told the truth and decided on their plan before the holding head high bit might have happened.

SodaPoppins · 10/04/2019 19:27

Another Colour means Another Colour!!!! Angry

Windowsareforcheaters · 10/04/2019 19:28

I'm quite fond of heliotrope.

Who's with me?

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 10/04/2019 19:29

Brexiteers are bickering over hard, soft and Teresa’s deal. But they still like to blame it on remainers

Exactly

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 10/04/2019 19:30

Youre on your own there window

ChavvyOldBrexiteer · 10/04/2019 19:32

The Brexit Party is storming ahead in the polls. The kick off will be this Saturday in Birmingham.
The worm is beginning to turn!

YemenRoadYemen · 10/04/2019 19:33

The good news is that Remainers are as keen as ever and a growing number of Leavers have switched sides, mostly due to the realisation of what this all actually means.

On the other hand, I am just glad we left eight years ago, and only have to watch this from the side lines.

Windowsareforcheaters · 10/04/2019 19:34

The worm is beginning to turn!

The worm in this metaphor is oppressed. Leave won, remain lost. The power is in the hands of the winners.

Why do (some) leavers insist on casting themselves as victims?

ChavvyOldBrexiteer · 10/04/2019 19:35

@starfish, but how can you say that my 'wider picture' is less valid than your 'wider picture'?

Windowsareforcheaters · 10/04/2019 19:36

The Brexit Party is storming ahead in the polls

You can make your opinion more 'valid' by posting a link that confirms this view.

Seniorcitizen1 · 10/04/2019 19:37

Those who voted leave did know what kind of brexit they were voting for because the remain side told them. On the day after the vote there would be an emergency budget as the economy would crash and an austerity programme would be intriduced 100 times worse than since 2008. Yet 17.4m still voted for it. It was a lie and 16m+ remainers fell for the lie

JacquesHammer · 10/04/2019 19:38

The kick off will be this Saturday in Birmingham

Is this like the Brexit march? Just so we know the colossal numbers to expect.

ChavvyOldBrexiteer · 10/04/2019 19:39

@windows, less Leave won but the establishment are fighting tooth and nail to force us to stay in the failing EU project.

However, I am feeling in the ether that the Leavers are not sucking it up any more - hence the enthusiasm for the Brexit Party (who have had over 1000 applications to be candidates).

Viva la revolucion!

SodaPoppins · 10/04/2019 19:43

The Brexit Party seems to be polling at around 5%, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them absorb some of UKIP's 7%, or a decent number of Tory voters.

Of course, with our electoral system, that still wouldn't equate to many seats.

Windowsareforcheaters · 10/04/2019 19:43

The establishment?

JRM and BJ are not part of the establishment?

The Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition both want us to leave but leave is fighting the establishment?

Ffs

ChavvyOldBrexiteer · 10/04/2019 19:44

@windows, I am too chavvy and old to know how to post links on an iPhone but as they say on this esteemed forum, Google is your friend.

But take into account that many Leavers are still in the closet, giving EU fanatics a slightly skewed outcome when it comes to polls.

But rest assured, we are out there, quietly simmering and waiting to vote!