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To refuse to lend my friend money?

282 replies

Jenasaurus · 09/04/2019 15:31

I met my friend a year ago, we worked together and clicked, she is in her late 30s and I’m in my early 50s, she lives with her DH and DS many miles from both their families and I got the feeling she say me as a sort of fill in mum. I babysat for her DS, who even called me Nannyjenasauraus. We spent most lunch times together at work and confided in each other about lots of things. Things however have changed since my DM died last year.

I have inherited a large sum of money and this seems to have caused an issue between my friend and I. My friend has just purchased a brand new 4 bedroomed detached house in a nice area, her DS goes to an expensive nursery and her DH earns over 50K a year but she has recently started asking to borrow money from me.

She has left the place we both worked at and now has a well-paid job close to where she lives. We met a couple of months ago for a meal and she brought up that it was my pay day the following day, she asked if she could borrow £100 as she was going away at the weekend and hadn’t budgeted correctly, she promised to pay me back when she got paid 4 days later…but her pay day came and went and no money arrived.
I wrote this off, but then she asked me for £13,000 and said she would pay me back. She had a loan and was paying a lot of interest on it, so she wanted me to pay it off and instead she would pay me a monthly amount. I said I wasn’t sure as I have most of my money tied up and have 3 grown up children who I wanted to be able to help financially with house moves etc. She then asked for a lesser amount of £3500 and would repay me at £20 a month.
I kept avoiding the subject and in the end blocked her number and on social media as it was awkward and embarrassing. I did/do like her and before I had this inheritance our relationship was lovely. Anyway she managed to contact me by work email and said she hoped she hadn’t upset me and that she missed me. So I started chatting to her again and unblocked her number etc…now today, she has said “I hate to ask but you have always been so good to me before, I am unable to extend my overdraft and I desperately need some money”…I was amazed, 1 couple of days in and she is back to asking for money again! Should I just walk away or tell her in plain terms that I am unable to lend her any money. She did repay £25 of the £100 I lent her in the end but I wouldn’t have minded her keeping that to help her out, but it was a red flag if she can’t repay a £100 how could she repay £3000+?
Despite the inheritance I only early £20k a year and live alone, so really can’t give away the money my mum left me, I really believe my mum would want this to benefit her grandchildren and be upset if I lent it like this.
So as not to drip feed, my friend told me a lot of information about her life, including the fact her DH smokes a packet of cigarettes a day and a bottle of wine a night, in addition when the purchased their home my friend immediately paid out to get all the hallway retiled despite it being brand new and freshly decorated, this is one of the reasons I was hesitant to lend the money, if it was for her or her family to keep a roof over their heads or eat, then yes I would but this is different, so why do I feel guilty?

OP posts:
lisamac28 · 09/04/2019 16:39

You feel guilty because you're obviously a good, decent person who empathised with her . Absolutely do not give her anything. As you said, if she can't pay back £100, she's got no chance of paying back £3,000. She'll ask for more and more with promises of definitely paying you back and she'll bleed you dry before you know it.

ohdearmymistake · 09/04/2019 16:41

I'd write that £75 off and end this. She could pay off the £75 in dribs and drabs all the while working on the op's resolve ..... "oh, here's a tenner, it's attached to a picture my ds drew of his nanny giving him a £3.5k cheque because he misses her sooo much"

Totally agree with this ^ it would be far cheaper to write off the £75 that the CF still owes rather that let her worm her way to your money.

dronesdroppingzopiclone · 09/04/2019 16:41

Look, forget about 'not now' because this person is a scamming con artist. She will never truly be in need and even if someone is, you are not under obligation to loan them money. Honestly, you need to get some better boundaries in place because you're a bit of a sitting duck for CFers. Block her and move on. She isn't a friend, she never was, you were just someone she buttered up to use for free childcare and favours and then, when she thought she could, for money.

Honestly, who the fuck asks a friend for £13000? Get to fuck!

Gone4Good · 09/04/2019 16:42

This woman is using you. She is trying to scam you. When scammers call me on the phone I simple tell them to 'fuck off'. You need to as well.

NEVER tell anyone you have come into money again!

SavageBeauty73 · 09/04/2019 16:42

No way. She's a proper cheeky fucker!!!

Margot33 · 09/04/2019 16:42

Trust your gut feeling. Tell her straight, I can't lend you any more money. A real friend would not let that affect your relationship. If she ignores you, then she is not your friend. Please tell her no and you're not allowed to feel bad about it! My husband said I was too soft with people so told me something very useful. Every time someone asks me a favour, I'm to imagine saying that same thing to them. If that feels right then it's reasonable to say yes. If it feels wrong/cheeky just say no! I live by that tip eighteen years later.

dronesdroppingzopiclone · 09/04/2019 16:43

Write off the £75. Don't engage with her, con artists are very manipulative.

Rainbunny · 09/04/2019 16:44

I was going to comment to say that it seems obvious that she is grooming you OP but I see others have already mentioned this.

Seriously OP, I really advise to back away from any level of friendship with her. She will never, ever forget the fact that you have come into money and that will always be a thought in her mind. Even if you get past her loan requests and maintain a friendship with her, there will likely be a point in the future (it could be years down the line) when she will make another play to "borrow" money, and in ten or twenty years you may be more vulnerable to her manipulations.

Think about it, most people wouldn't dream or have the nerve to behave this way. Somebody who has the ability to shamelessly ask for large amounts of money is someone who will not be afraid to try again and again. The lesson here is to be careful who you share your financial information with, too late in her case sadly. If you're not comfortable saying no you could simply lie and say that you've already settled the inheritance on your children but really you should just back away from this person.

Gitfeatures · 09/04/2019 16:47

'Yes I have always been good to you - too good in fact, which is why I'm still waiting for you to pay back the £75 you already owe me.'

TheInvestigator · 09/04/2019 16:49

Did she want to pay you back £20 a month or £200 a month. If it was £20, then it would have taken her almost 15 years to pay back £3500. How long did she plan on keeping your £13000 for?

That's utterly ridiculous. Just tell her that your money has already been given to your children so you don't have the money to help her and can't afford to lose even 1 or 2 hundred.

Rumbletum2 · 09/04/2019 16:51

I agree with a PP who said tell her you’ll lend her the money but she’ll need to pay back the 75 quid first. Then when she does, block her. If she doesn’t, then block her.

Bellasorellaa · 09/04/2019 16:51

i didnt even read but from the title
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS

I have been robbed by my cousin who was like a sister and my best friend who i did everything for

my cousin robbed 6k off me
my best friend 1k

please dont do this ever

leckford · 09/04/2019 16:54

Don't do it, if you lose her 'friendship' over the refusal you will definitely lose the 'friendship' when she does not pay you back and you will have lost the money as well

Weepingwillow5 · 09/04/2019 16:56

She is taking advantage . Walk away and do not see her again - this is one of the strangest ‘friendships’ I’ve heard of. For some reason unless she is completely incorrigible , she thinks that you are likely to oblige. Without wishing to be unkind please have a good think about where she’s got this idea from .

dustarr73 · 09/04/2019 17:01

She is a cf and a cunning one.She only paid you that 20 to keep you sweet.She knew you where copping on to her.

Block her and enjoy your money

Tawdrylocalbrouhaha · 09/04/2019 17:01

I agree with those saying write off the 75 pounds, and don't see her again. Whether she is a cunning predator or whether she (or her husband) are deep in debt and desperate, she sees you as an income stream. There is nothing to be gained or salvaged here - move yourself away from risk.

You sound lovely, and kindness can sadly be taken for weakness by those who prey on others.

Clutterbugsmum · 09/04/2019 17:03

I'd text her back that she "obviously missed my bank balance more" and then block her on everything again.

She not your friend anymore. She only interested in your money, as if she was missing you should would not have brought borrowing any money from you.

OhDiddums · 09/04/2019 17:07

In plain terms say no. Be clear and say the money you have is accounted for, helping your children out. You are not earning huge amounts so you can't do it at all.

GlitterPixie · 09/04/2019 17:10

The £100 she never paid back proves that YANBU

BadPennyNoBiscuit · 09/04/2019 17:12

Yanbu, send her the message Gitfeatures posted;
'Yes I have always been good to you - too good in fact, which is why I'm still waiting for you to pay back the £75 you already owe me.'

Rainbunny · 09/04/2019 17:14

The fact that after you blocked her on your phone/email/social media etc, she had the nerve to contact you through your work email is a massive red flag! There was nothing casual about her attempts to get in contact with you, resorting to your work email was highly inappropriate and a sign of her desperation, however lightly she may have tried to play it off. I would guess that she and her dh are in all sorts of financial trouble.

Holidayshopping · 09/04/2019 17:18

Yanbu, send her the message Gitfeatures posted;'Yes I have always been good to you - too good in fact, which is why I'm still waiting for you to pay back the £75 you already owe me.'

This. I can’t believe you are even considering speaking to her again tbh.

Cherrysoup · 09/04/2019 17:18

Ask for the other £75 and see what she says! She’s unbelievable to ask you for this.

NWQM · 09/04/2019 17:19

Id be very tempted to say...'that's okay, if you need to delay paying back the £75 you owe me. I'll understand. Take care, bye'.

Even without the lifestyle choices she has made she has been awful to you keep asking for money. You don't need that stress in your life OP.

Jackshouse · 09/04/2019 17:21

No you are definitely not being unreasonable. For context parents could afford to lend me the type of money she is asking for and I would happily ask them for £100 if I needed it but it would be repaid. I would not ask them for the other amounts that she has asked you for!

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