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To refuse to lend my friend money?

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Jenasaurus · 09/04/2019 15:31

I met my friend a year ago, we worked together and clicked, she is in her late 30s and I’m in my early 50s, she lives with her DH and DS many miles from both their families and I got the feeling she say me as a sort of fill in mum. I babysat for her DS, who even called me Nannyjenasauraus. We spent most lunch times together at work and confided in each other about lots of things. Things however have changed since my DM died last year.

I have inherited a large sum of money and this seems to have caused an issue between my friend and I. My friend has just purchased a brand new 4 bedroomed detached house in a nice area, her DS goes to an expensive nursery and her DH earns over 50K a year but she has recently started asking to borrow money from me.

She has left the place we both worked at and now has a well-paid job close to where she lives. We met a couple of months ago for a meal and she brought up that it was my pay day the following day, she asked if she could borrow £100 as she was going away at the weekend and hadn’t budgeted correctly, she promised to pay me back when she got paid 4 days later…but her pay day came and went and no money arrived.
I wrote this off, but then she asked me for £13,000 and said she would pay me back. She had a loan and was paying a lot of interest on it, so she wanted me to pay it off and instead she would pay me a monthly amount. I said I wasn’t sure as I have most of my money tied up and have 3 grown up children who I wanted to be able to help financially with house moves etc. She then asked for a lesser amount of £3500 and would repay me at £20 a month.
I kept avoiding the subject and in the end blocked her number and on social media as it was awkward and embarrassing. I did/do like her and before I had this inheritance our relationship was lovely. Anyway she managed to contact me by work email and said she hoped she hadn’t upset me and that she missed me. So I started chatting to her again and unblocked her number etc…now today, she has said “I hate to ask but you have always been so good to me before, I am unable to extend my overdraft and I desperately need some money”…I was amazed, 1 couple of days in and she is back to asking for money again! Should I just walk away or tell her in plain terms that I am unable to lend her any money. She did repay £25 of the £100 I lent her in the end but I wouldn’t have minded her keeping that to help her out, but it was a red flag if she can’t repay a £100 how could she repay £3000+?
Despite the inheritance I only early £20k a year and live alone, so really can’t give away the money my mum left me, I really believe my mum would want this to benefit her grandchildren and be upset if I lent it like this.
So as not to drip feed, my friend told me a lot of information about her life, including the fact her DH smokes a packet of cigarettes a day and a bottle of wine a night, in addition when the purchased their home my friend immediately paid out to get all the hallway retiled despite it being brand new and freshly decorated, this is one of the reasons I was hesitant to lend the money, if it was for her or her family to keep a roof over their heads or eat, then yes I would but this is different, so why do I feel guilty?

OP posts:
outpinked · 09/04/2019 16:01

She’s not a friend, you did the correct thing blocking her and need to do that again. She’s seen you coming OP and is using and abusing you. You never should have lent money in the first place but use it as a lesson, definitely never give her another dime!

Pinkyyy · 09/04/2019 16:02

I'm very surprised that you even had to ask this. It's blatantly obvious that she only got back into contact with you to ask you for money again. You blocked her for a reason and I'd advise you to do it again.

Mitzimaybe · 09/04/2019 16:02

YANBU and you sound lovely. Tell her you won't be lending her any money and she should stop asking as it's embarrassing. That you enjoy her friendship but if she feels the same, she needs to stop mentioning the money.

Or just block her again. Your call. Don't feel guilty about it, though.

dronesdroppingzopiclone · 09/04/2019 16:03

WTAF! Don't even answer her. What a cheeky she's got, chancer! Block her. She's no friend at all. And buy yourself a copy of 'The Art of Not Giving a Fuck' so you can free yourself from needless guilt about CFs who don't give a toss about you.

BlueSkiesLies · 09/04/2019 16:03

100% do not lend her any money

I think you need to say something to her like "X I am really happy w have got back in contact, however it makes me really uncomfortable when you ask to borrow money. I can't lend you any money, so I'd appreciate it if you stopped asking. Anyway, looking forward to dinner next week and hearing all about how little johnny got on at his swimming gala."

BloodyDisgrace · 09/04/2019 16:06

what kind of cunt would live in a 4bed with a partner on 50K and ask foe money??? I understand if your friend was on a dole. Bloody hell.

sam221 · 09/04/2019 16:06

Please do not lend her any further money, do go ahead and block her. This person is not a friend but a complete user. Unfortunately when you do have a bit of money, there will be a few, who will feel entitled around you. Majority of people are not like this-thankfully!

alittlesnow · 09/04/2019 16:07

@Jenasaurus

It's amazing how money changes people, and what manipulative and controlling individuals they can be!

Me and DH came into some money several years back, (mid 6 figures,) and all of a sudden, people kept popping up 'needing' money, (for house repairs, 'medical' fees, a new car, a holiday abroad - as they hadn't had one abroad for 5 years, plastic surgery, to pay off debts/loans, and several other things.........)

Some of them were people who had had hardly anything to do with us for 5-10 years or more, and we told them all NO.

When they were told no, the majority of them took umbrage were not happy, and a few said we were being selfish and mean.

This money was OURS and was nothing to do with anyone else. The only ones we have given anything to are the few people we care about and love very much, and who care about and love us very much. We decided that the fair-weather fuckers can do one.

And I certainly would never have been 'lending' multiple 1000s to friends. That money is our nest egg for old age. A few 'friends' of ours turned into massive arseholes when we came into our money. We certainly found out who our true friends were.........

Do NOT give this CF any more money. What a cheek to ask you to pay back £3500 at £20 a month. That will take fourteen and a half years to pay back! See if she can get a BANK to let her have a loan for £3500 and pay back only £20 a month!!!

The biggest term you would be able to borrow £3500 would be five years, AND you would pay more like £70 a month!

LimeKiwi · 09/04/2019 16:07

Run don't walk

This woman is not your friend

THIS

No, no NO and another no - do not lend her anything, absolutely taking the piss!
Not a chance.

Doghorsechicken · 09/04/2019 16:07

I wouldn’t even lend her £10. She sounds awful. Just lay it to her straight if you still want the friendship tell her you will never lend her money ever again so don’t bother asking.
Even if her circumstances change please never ever lend her another penny. She’s not your problem.

OhJustElfOff · 09/04/2019 16:07

If you lend money to an unreliable friend you need to be prepared to write that money off and almost definitely the friendship. she is more than happy to bring up what most people would consider a very awkward subject and has done so repeatedly despite you avoiding her. She has the balls of a brass monkey and won't give a shit about whether she pays you back or not. You don't need the advice here, you clearly know what to do and it's time to cut your losses with the friendship, it's sadly not there anymore

Binkyboi · 09/04/2019 16:08

You shouldn’t have to justify it OP, or feel guilty, in no way should you lend her the money and she’s a CF for asking. If you feel awkward being around her now I’d have no hesitation in blocking her.

sallievp · 09/04/2019 16:09

She is not a friend. Just a user.
You sound very lovely and kind.
Do not lend her money...just say you havent got it!

Bluntness100 · 09/04/2019 16:09

This is not your friend, I'm sorry op, you've seen her true colours. She wants your money. Do not give this woman a penny.

Block her again.

countchuckula · 09/04/2019 16:10

She likely owes money to other friends/relatives and they've all stopped lending (or giving - as she doesn't seem to pay it back) and now you are in her sights.

Whatever you do, don't lend her more on the strength that you might get the original lot repaid. In other words, don't throw good money after bad. Write off your losses thus far, but for goodness' sakes don't give her more.

Her reaction to your refusal will tell you all you need to know about whether she genuinely values your friendship or not. Give her a story about what you had to do with the money (gave it to a needy relative, for instance) if you find that easier.

Sweetpea55 · 09/04/2019 16:11

I'm with everyone else on this.. You know what to do dont you. Common sense should be shouting in your head..
This woman is not a friend. She's a financial parasite.

Nix32 · 09/04/2019 16:11

Just adding my voice to everyone else's - don't lend her any money, ever. Friends don't do this. Have a clear conversation about this - if the friendship returns to what it was, lovely, if not, time to move on.

Iloveacurry · 09/04/2019 16:13

Say no and block. She’s no friend.

maggiecate · 09/04/2019 16:13

You won't be the first person she's done this to and you won't be the last. She'll have a trail of former 'practically sisters' and 'fill in mums' that are out of pocket. All good scam artists 'click' with people, they tend to be charming and they know which buttons to push.

Funding her lifestyle is not your responsibility. Walk away. Tell her not to contact you again. Don't explain, don't negotiate - she'll drip drip drip like water on stone to wear you down. That money is your nest egg - you're on a relatively low income and you need to think of your future.

barryfromclareisfit · 09/04/2019 16:14

Lend her nothing. Block and avoid. She’s a cunt.

HollowTalk · 09/04/2019 16:14

Look at a photo of her. Now look at a photo of your kids. Who do you really want to give money to? A scheming greedy woman who earns a lot and spends more, or your lovely children?

GreenTulips · 09/04/2019 16:14

Nope

She has an addiction somewhere!! Not your problem!

Most I’ve lent/borrowed from friends is £20 when caught short

I wouldn’t dream of asking for a loan!! That’s what banks and CC are for

teyem · 09/04/2019 16:14

You are being manipulated. Fortunately you don't work together anymore so it's easy enough to close down all communication and run for the hills call it a day.

listsandbudgets · 09/04/2019 16:17

No way... absolutely not. She's not paid back the £100.. your chances of getting £13k back from especially over that ridiculous period of time are miniscule. There would always be a reason she couldn't pay that week.

I hate lending money though have done so in certain circumstances. I did once pay the rent arrears for someone who like you I'd known for a year or so as she had 2 children and I felt sorry for her. She agreed a payment plan, set up a standing order and never missed a single payment. She even asked me to write into the agreement that the 2 weeks of December in run up to Christmas she didn't pay - fine... worked well knew what I was getting into. It took her 2 years to fully repay but she did... we're good friends now. Friends take care of their commitments, they don't take the piss, they help each other in extremis ... and they bl**dy well pay back the hundred quid they borrowed a few months ago.

Don't lend her a penny she's shown her true colours already

Drum2018 · 09/04/2019 16:19

Please block her again. I'm sure she'll know why. If you can do without the £75 owed I'd leave it as if you say she owes you that she may pay you but expect that you will help her again. Block and forget about her. Block her from work email too if possible. She's a scrounger and you don't need that level of 'friend' in your life.

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