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To refuse to lend my friend money?

282 replies

Jenasaurus · 09/04/2019 15:31

I met my friend a year ago, we worked together and clicked, she is in her late 30s and I’m in my early 50s, she lives with her DH and DS many miles from both their families and I got the feeling she say me as a sort of fill in mum. I babysat for her DS, who even called me Nannyjenasauraus. We spent most lunch times together at work and confided in each other about lots of things. Things however have changed since my DM died last year.

I have inherited a large sum of money and this seems to have caused an issue between my friend and I. My friend has just purchased a brand new 4 bedroomed detached house in a nice area, her DS goes to an expensive nursery and her DH earns over 50K a year but she has recently started asking to borrow money from me.

She has left the place we both worked at and now has a well-paid job close to where she lives. We met a couple of months ago for a meal and she brought up that it was my pay day the following day, she asked if she could borrow £100 as she was going away at the weekend and hadn’t budgeted correctly, she promised to pay me back when she got paid 4 days later…but her pay day came and went and no money arrived.
I wrote this off, but then she asked me for £13,000 and said she would pay me back. She had a loan and was paying a lot of interest on it, so she wanted me to pay it off and instead she would pay me a monthly amount. I said I wasn’t sure as I have most of my money tied up and have 3 grown up children who I wanted to be able to help financially with house moves etc. She then asked for a lesser amount of £3500 and would repay me at £20 a month.
I kept avoiding the subject and in the end blocked her number and on social media as it was awkward and embarrassing. I did/do like her and before I had this inheritance our relationship was lovely. Anyway she managed to contact me by work email and said she hoped she hadn’t upset me and that she missed me. So I started chatting to her again and unblocked her number etc…now today, she has said “I hate to ask but you have always been so good to me before, I am unable to extend my overdraft and I desperately need some money”…I was amazed, 1 couple of days in and she is back to asking for money again! Should I just walk away or tell her in plain terms that I am unable to lend her any money. She did repay £25 of the £100 I lent her in the end but I wouldn’t have minded her keeping that to help her out, but it was a red flag if she can’t repay a £100 how could she repay £3000+?
Despite the inheritance I only early £20k a year and live alone, so really can’t give away the money my mum left me, I really believe my mum would want this to benefit her grandchildren and be upset if I lent it like this.
So as not to drip feed, my friend told me a lot of information about her life, including the fact her DH smokes a packet of cigarettes a day and a bottle of wine a night, in addition when the purchased their home my friend immediately paid out to get all the hallway retiled despite it being brand new and freshly decorated, this is one of the reasons I was hesitant to lend the money, if it was for her or her family to keep a roof over their heads or eat, then yes I would but this is different, so why do I feel guilty?

OP posts:
CalmdownJanet · 09/04/2019 17:23

This is where you text back:

"Not a fucking hope in hell" and then reblock her

teletubbies123 · 09/04/2019 17:24

Run for the hills when she talks to you she thinks of money.

OurChristmasMiracle · 09/04/2019 17:27

I’d reply with “I’m sorry I’m not able to lend you ANY money” no justification and no apology.

It’s your money for you to do as you like with! If that’s providing for your kids or buying a Ferrari for yourself that’s down to you!

GinAndTings · 09/04/2019 17:28

Don't lend her any money please! You wont get it back! x

AlwaysCheddar · 09/04/2019 17:30

No!!!

sonjadog · 09/04/2019 17:31

I would be tempted to tell her exactly what I thought of her and her money grabbing before blocking her for good.

InACheeseAndPickle · 09/04/2019 17:32

I agree with PP don't get into justifying why you can't lend it to her. It's a ridiculous request which doesn't even warrant a reply.

Windygate · 09/04/2019 17:37

Jenasarus you do understand that she doesn't want to 'borrow' the money? She has absolutely no intentions of paying you back, she expects you to gift her the money.

Seaweed42 · 09/04/2019 17:37

She is manipulating you. She is kissing your ass with compliments then trying to get your purse out of your bag at the same time.
You didn't ask her for your money back. "She did repay £25 of the £100 I lent her in the end but I wouldn’t have minded her keeping that to help her out". You didn't mind her keeping it because you didn't want to have to upset yourself by asking her for it back. This is what she is playing on now. Your generosity and your unwillingness to assert your rights.
You have GOT to be firm with her.
Just say 'I won't be lending you any money and that's my final word on that'. She is guilt-tripping you.
It's hurtful to think your relationship might be based on the fact that you are useful to her. But that's a reality you are going to have to face. She's an emotional abuser. Don't be her victim.

billybagpuss · 09/04/2019 17:38

Definitely don't lend her anymore but do you still want the friendship?

Adversecamber22 · 09/04/2019 17:40

Good advice received but just to remind people to never ever let people know you have money. I am always amazed at how people share this information.

willowmelangell · 09/04/2019 17:41

You have been given some excellent advice. I can only add my experience of 'loans' to 'friends', not one single person still is a friend. All gone, my money with them.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/04/2019 17:41

its so odd that she changed like this

Actually, no - she was like it before, as the missing £100 and the previous person who dropped her show; it's just that you didn't have your inheritance then so weren't targeted

Doubtless there'll be plenty more she's tried it with, but hopefully you won't find out about them because you'll block her again

seven201 · 09/04/2019 17:42

Say no and tell her why.

DartmoorDoughnut · 09/04/2019 17:43

She’ll never pay you anything back, do NOT do it.

scatteredglitter · 09/04/2019 17:44

She sees you as an easy target and a free meal ticket. She is absolutely using you for your money! Do not lend her anything

rickandmorts · 09/04/2019 17:45

I haven't read all the replies but I'd say yeah sure, I can lend it you when you pay the remainder of the £100 I lent you. When you got your £75 I'd then block her on everything, her number, social media, work email etc. She is not a friend. She's trying to manipulative and use you.

AJPTaylor · 09/04/2019 17:46

I would say " with true friends you can't put a price on friendship. You have at 75 quid."
Then block her.

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 09/04/2019 17:47

Please dont lend her money and dont feel at all guilty. She has got form for not paying back. They are not short and even if they were, it's not your problem. She sounds like a user.

I'd tell her it's all now in trust or investments for your kids and cant touch it. And then see how much she wants to meet up.

I bet when you look back it's always you doing favours and helping out and putting yourself out and it's not reciprocated

SandAndSea · 09/04/2019 17:48

I know it's been said already but NO! Do not lend her any more money! In fact, I think you should pursue her for the money she already owes you.

Crossfitgirl · 09/04/2019 17:49

OP even though you said no to the loan...
Are you going to ask her if she can repay the £75 she still owes you? I would be really interested to hear her response to that.

viques · 09/04/2019 17:49

If you are in your fifties then just conjure up your inner Zammo.......

Just.Say.No.

No reasons, no excuses, no apologies.

No.

RosieCockle · 09/04/2019 17:51

She's kind of done you a favour by not repaying the much smaller loan so you can be pretty sure the big one will also be forgotten.
My firm line for this is that I have a rule for not lending to family or friends because I got my fingers burned severely in the past.
I didn't at all, but I've watched many episodes of Judge Rinder and have seen how kind gestures can backfire and ruin relationships.

OhioOhioOhio · 09/04/2019 17:52

I don't understand why you think she's your friend.

NWQM · 09/04/2019 17:53

'you don't have to be part of the crowd.....'

Now that's going to linger @viques thanks for that 😂