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To refuse to lend my friend money?

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Jenasaurus · 09/04/2019 15:31

I met my friend a year ago, we worked together and clicked, she is in her late 30s and I’m in my early 50s, she lives with her DH and DS many miles from both their families and I got the feeling she say me as a sort of fill in mum. I babysat for her DS, who even called me Nannyjenasauraus. We spent most lunch times together at work and confided in each other about lots of things. Things however have changed since my DM died last year.

I have inherited a large sum of money and this seems to have caused an issue between my friend and I. My friend has just purchased a brand new 4 bedroomed detached house in a nice area, her DS goes to an expensive nursery and her DH earns over 50K a year but she has recently started asking to borrow money from me.

She has left the place we both worked at and now has a well-paid job close to where she lives. We met a couple of months ago for a meal and she brought up that it was my pay day the following day, she asked if she could borrow £100 as she was going away at the weekend and hadn’t budgeted correctly, she promised to pay me back when she got paid 4 days later…but her pay day came and went and no money arrived.
I wrote this off, but then she asked me for £13,000 and said she would pay me back. She had a loan and was paying a lot of interest on it, so she wanted me to pay it off and instead she would pay me a monthly amount. I said I wasn’t sure as I have most of my money tied up and have 3 grown up children who I wanted to be able to help financially with house moves etc. She then asked for a lesser amount of £3500 and would repay me at £20 a month.
I kept avoiding the subject and in the end blocked her number and on social media as it was awkward and embarrassing. I did/do like her and before I had this inheritance our relationship was lovely. Anyway she managed to contact me by work email and said she hoped she hadn’t upset me and that she missed me. So I started chatting to her again and unblocked her number etc…now today, she has said “I hate to ask but you have always been so good to me before, I am unable to extend my overdraft and I desperately need some money”…I was amazed, 1 couple of days in and she is back to asking for money again! Should I just walk away or tell her in plain terms that I am unable to lend her any money. She did repay £25 of the £100 I lent her in the end but I wouldn’t have minded her keeping that to help her out, but it was a red flag if she can’t repay a £100 how could she repay £3000+?
Despite the inheritance I only early £20k a year and live alone, so really can’t give away the money my mum left me, I really believe my mum would want this to benefit her grandchildren and be upset if I lent it like this.
So as not to drip feed, my friend told me a lot of information about her life, including the fact her DH smokes a packet of cigarettes a day and a bottle of wine a night, in addition when the purchased their home my friend immediately paid out to get all the hallway retiled despite it being brand new and freshly decorated, this is one of the reasons I was hesitant to lend the money, if it was for her or her family to keep a roof over their heads or eat, then yes I would but this is different, so why do I feel guilty?

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BMW6 · 09/04/2019 16:20

Just tell her you've seen enough Judge Judy to know that the best way to lose a friendship is to lend that friend money.
This "friend" has already proved this by not repaying the £100 she originally borrowed.
How she had the nerve to ask to borrow £3500 and repay £20pm is astonishing! How did you manage to not reply "WTF"?

My BIL lent a very close friend (actually godfather to my niece)of over 30 years a very large sum of money from his redundancy package. "Friend" defaulted on agreed repayments offering excuse after excuse, then ghosting BIL. The money was eventually repaid but only on threat of legal redress.

They have never spoken again, of course. BIL was utterly devastated by the betrayal of trust.

Jaxhog · 09/04/2019 16:21

Wow! She asked to borrow £13,000? Then reduced it to £3,500!

You will never see it repaid. Even if she does repay, it is likley to be grudging (especially since she hasn't made any reall effort to repay the £100. Your friendship will be over and you will be seriously out of pocket.

I never lend anyone, except, maybe family, money. I either refuse, or give it to them. But I wouldn't give ANYONE that much.

AWishForWingsThatWork · 09/04/2019 16:21

She stopped being your friend the minute she learned about your inheritance. She somehow feels entitled to it... walk away.

DanielRicciardosSmile · 09/04/2019 16:23

Block her again, and include her work email this time. It's way too suspicious that she finds herself in financial difficulty immediately after re-establishing contact with you.

number1wang · 09/04/2019 16:23

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Stayawayfromitsmouth · 09/04/2019 16:23

I don't really need any money but of you're giving it away Pm me hun.
Only kidding.
It's very wierd she is being like this. Did you appear to be wealthy when you met her. Eg wear nice clothes and drive a nice car? Sorry I'm just being nosy.
Do not give her your money. Tell her straight.
How she takes that determines the friendship.

JonSlow · 09/04/2019 16:23

As a PP said. Ask for the £75 back first...

checkingforballoons · 09/04/2019 16:23

Sheepishly admit to her that you’re absolutely broke, you spent every last penny on lavish gifts for a secret toy boy. You’ve not actually met him, but you’re certain the messages he sends you from are genuine, so could she lend him a few quid? He’s waiting on a huge Western Union transfer so he’s good for it.

Ellie56 · 09/04/2019 16:24

I'd just say, "No, you haven't paid back the last lot of money I lent you, so I won't be lending any more."

BentCoppersOnly · 09/04/2019 16:24

You need to firmly tell her no. Literally say that she struggled to repay £100, you cannot trust she can pay back a loan of 3.5k.

harajukubabe · 09/04/2019 16:25

She is grooming you to fleece money. Be very careful. I friend her. She doesn't like you. She likes your money.

TwoBlueFish · 09/04/2019 16:26

If you want to try and salvage the friendship you could maybe send her a straightforward email/text saying that you value the friendship but will not be lending money and if she asks again you will consider the friendship at an end.

Can’t believe that she even asked though and personally I’d probably just block again.

Sarahjconnor · 09/04/2019 16:27

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BMW6 · 09/04/2019 16:27

I agree with PP who think she may have form for cultivating really intense "friendships" very quickly, with a view to rinsing them later......

Please don't be conned OP.

mckenzie · 09/04/2019 16:27

A saying from my childhood is as true today as it was back in the 60s

"Never a borrower nor lender be".

We can tell that it saddens you but think you know that this 'friendship' is over.
You sound like a lovely lady and I'm sure you'll make new and better friends to fill any void left but this person

teyem · 09/04/2019 16:28

I'd write that £75 off and end this. She could pay off the £75 in dribs and drabs all the while working on the op's resolve ..... "oh, here's a tenner, it's attached to a picture my ds drew of his nanny giving him a £3.5k cheque because he misses her sooo much Sad"

GreenTulips · 09/04/2019 16:28

£3500/£20 an month is roughly 14.5 years

Long time with no intereste

Bank would charge £1500 interest

Assuming you are friends in 14 years time!!

Wonder what happened to her other friends

ArthuriaAugustaDarcy · 09/04/2019 16:28

OP, another voice saying you are absolutely right not to lend her any money. You sound like a lovely person and a good friend, and she is taking gross advantage of you (or trying to).

Funnily, I had a slight reverse, in that I was very seriously stuck cash-wise a few months ago. A very good friend offered to lend me the money. She obviously trusted me to pay it back, and I knew I could pay it back on a monthly basis - but I said no, and managed to find a 3-year interest free credit card for the same amount instead. I was so grateful to her for offering, but I couldn't bring myself to take from a friend, even if just temporarily. There is always scope for these kind of arrangements to go wrong, and I value her more as a friend than I do as a lender.

bmbonanza · 09/04/2019 16:29

no no no no no

Jenasaurus · 09/04/2019 16:36

Thank you for all the responses, I feel better about saying no now and moving on. If she was genuinely in need I would have helped her but it is really to fund her lifestyle. I no longer feel guilty, thank you to everyone who posted. One in particular mentioned her owing to other friends and relatives and it reminded me of a conversation she had with me about an old friend who never replied to her texts any more, she said she did ask for a loan and the friend declined and she wondered if that was the reason. I now think it probably was, but it hasn't put her off asking another friend which is the sad thing.

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Crazycat16 · 09/04/2019 16:37

if it was for her or her family to keep a roof over their heads or eat, then yes I would

I still wouldn’t. If she is hard up she could sell and downsize. Sounds like she has a spending problem. So awful that, after being back in contact for such a short time, she immediately starts asking for money again.....and she hasn’t even paid you back all the money she previously borrowed! Awful. So sorry you have lost the friendship you had Flowers

Block her and move on. I agree with PP forget the £75 or every time you see her for her to pay you back she will be pleading for a bigger amount.

MissConductUS · 09/04/2019 16:37

My DH and I came into a similar sum recently, a gift from my lovely MIL primarily to help with uni expenses for DC. Other than the children we have told no one, precisely to avoid bringing the scroungers out of the woodwork.

TheBitchOfTheVicar · 09/04/2019 16:39

If my mum had not passed away and I had no inherited any money my friend and myself would have carried on having a normal friendship, its so odd that she changed like this.

I hate to say it, but this prob isn't true - you are older, you may have talked about your family and he may have cultivated a friendship in the hope that you would inherit.

PaddyMcGintysGoatee · 09/04/2019 16:39

Bloody hell. Her husband is spending £500 a month on booze and fags. So there’s the answer to her financial problems - you could pay off a lot of debt with £500 a month. She’s a total CF. Block her.

yumyumpoppycat · 09/04/2019 16:39

oh god no, your instincts are correct - if she can't pay back 100 how will she pay back 1000. She sounds so manipulative, it is a shame.