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To refuse to lend my friend money?

282 replies

Jenasaurus · 09/04/2019 15:31

I met my friend a year ago, we worked together and clicked, she is in her late 30s and I’m in my early 50s, she lives with her DH and DS many miles from both their families and I got the feeling she say me as a sort of fill in mum. I babysat for her DS, who even called me Nannyjenasauraus. We spent most lunch times together at work and confided in each other about lots of things. Things however have changed since my DM died last year.

I have inherited a large sum of money and this seems to have caused an issue between my friend and I. My friend has just purchased a brand new 4 bedroomed detached house in a nice area, her DS goes to an expensive nursery and her DH earns over 50K a year but she has recently started asking to borrow money from me.

She has left the place we both worked at and now has a well-paid job close to where she lives. We met a couple of months ago for a meal and she brought up that it was my pay day the following day, she asked if she could borrow £100 as she was going away at the weekend and hadn’t budgeted correctly, she promised to pay me back when she got paid 4 days later…but her pay day came and went and no money arrived.
I wrote this off, but then she asked me for £13,000 and said she would pay me back. She had a loan and was paying a lot of interest on it, so she wanted me to pay it off and instead she would pay me a monthly amount. I said I wasn’t sure as I have most of my money tied up and have 3 grown up children who I wanted to be able to help financially with house moves etc. She then asked for a lesser amount of £3500 and would repay me at £20 a month.
I kept avoiding the subject and in the end blocked her number and on social media as it was awkward and embarrassing. I did/do like her and before I had this inheritance our relationship was lovely. Anyway she managed to contact me by work email and said she hoped she hadn’t upset me and that she missed me. So I started chatting to her again and unblocked her number etc…now today, she has said “I hate to ask but you have always been so good to me before, I am unable to extend my overdraft and I desperately need some money”…I was amazed, 1 couple of days in and she is back to asking for money again! Should I just walk away or tell her in plain terms that I am unable to lend her any money. She did repay £25 of the £100 I lent her in the end but I wouldn’t have minded her keeping that to help her out, but it was a red flag if she can’t repay a £100 how could she repay £3000+?
Despite the inheritance I only early £20k a year and live alone, so really can’t give away the money my mum left me, I really believe my mum would want this to benefit her grandchildren and be upset if I lent it like this.
So as not to drip feed, my friend told me a lot of information about her life, including the fact her DH smokes a packet of cigarettes a day and a bottle of wine a night, in addition when the purchased their home my friend immediately paid out to get all the hallway retiled despite it being brand new and freshly decorated, this is one of the reasons I was hesitant to lend the money, if it was for her or her family to keep a roof over their heads or eat, then yes I would but this is different, so why do I feel guilty?

OP posts:
Jenasaurus · 09/04/2019 15:42

Thank you for your replies, I feel the same as you are saying, and wont lend the money. I am just a little confused and saddened. If my mum had not passed away and I had no inherited any money my friend and myself would have carried on having a normal friendship, its so odd that she changed like this.

OP posts:
Claw01 · 09/04/2019 15:42

You are not being unreasonable at all!

Definitely say no. Don’t block her....yet! Say you have missed your friendship too, however under no circumstances will you loan her any money!

HedgerowTree · 09/04/2019 15:42

Just no.

LagunaBubbles · 09/04/2019 15:46

Lend it to her and you will soon be on here saying she hasn't repaid you. You have to ask yourself why you feel guilty though, because her financial situation is not your responsibility.

welshsoph · 09/04/2019 15:46

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FriarTuck · 09/04/2019 15:48

Tell her that you'll only lend her if she pays back the £75 first. That way either she pays you back the original loan and you can immediately block her, or you don't hear from her again. Either way you win AND you don't lose more money.

Petalflowers · 09/04/2019 15:51

I’m also saying don’t lend her the money. Her poor money management is not your problem.

countchuckula · 09/04/2019 15:51

Friends don't behave like this. Get rid!

junebirthdaygirl · 09/04/2019 15:53

There was a court case on lreland recently where a woman got money from an accident. Her friends, a couple persuaded her to lend them a sizable amount. Later they insisted it was a gift and refused to repay. It ended it court and they were ordered to pay and berated by the judge for their cheek.
This woman is bonkers. I wonder is she gambling or something as its outrageous of her to ask to borrow your money. I wouldn't even ask family.

It's tough as you trusted her but she is a leech.

Chocolateisfab · 09/04/2019 15:54

If you are flush op my ddog is at the vets tomorrow....
She is no less a cf than me!
Block all ways and move on.

2rebecca · 09/04/2019 15:54

She needs to learn to live within her means. No. I would start being uncomfortable about the friendship, it isn't equal any more and i would start feeling used.

TimeIhadaNameChange · 09/04/2019 15:54

Isn't it a shame you took advice and stashed it all away in an isa? And you can't get any out for 5, 10, 500 years?

And incidentally, you're short yourself this month so if she could repay the £75 she owes you that would be great as you'd then be able to feed yourself.

She's definitely a CF and you need to stay well clear.

Boysey45 · 09/04/2019 15:54

NO! Tell her you wont be lending her any money and block her now. That money is for you and your children. Shes a right one, please walk away now, she wont give you it back. Please see sense.

Guardsman18 · 09/04/2019 15:55

I think I understand the guilt thing. I was in a position a few years ago where I had some money and a friend was really struggling.

I lent her a £1200 to get herself back on track. I felt at the time - there but for the grace of God etc.

9/10 years later, I am still waiting for it to be repaid and I didn't really help at all. What I should have done (hindsight is wonderful!) was helped her budget, contact debt people.

Don't do it Op!

HollowTalk · 09/04/2019 15:55

That would take 15 years to repay at £20 per week!

Honestly, OP, this isn't a friend. She's a user. She couldn't use you before because you didn't have much money, but now she thinks she can. You'd be mad to lend her the money - any money at all. You didn't even get the smaller sum back.

Mememeplease · 09/04/2019 15:55

If you haven't seen the £100 then absolutely no way. Actually even if it had been repaid then absolutely no way.
Please don't feel guilty. This is not something you ask a friend even if you are able to pay it back 100%. She is wrong to even ask.

BrightYellowDaffodil · 09/04/2019 15:56

She’s not a friend. It sounds a bit like she’s jealous of your money and has somehow squared it that it’s “right” for you to share it with her.

You don’t have to share it with her and I certainly wouldn’t lend her so much as a fiver. She’s shown her true colours as an entitled money grabber and I’d steer WELL clear. Even if you don’t lend her money and managed to stay friends, I bet she’ll be expecting you to pick up every tab going.

Blueowls · 09/04/2019 15:56

Block block block!!! Don't loan her a penny.

She is a CF of the highest order!

OhDearGodLookAtThisMess · 09/04/2019 15:57

£20 a month payback????? Even if she actually did do that, it would take nearly 15 years to repay you!

sockatoe · 09/04/2019 15:57

Sorry you've lost a friend.
Her poor financial decisions are not your problem, and as you say, your family money is for you and your family.
She was rude to ask the first time and lucky you gave her another chance. She's no friend anymore

itsbetterwithoutyou · 09/04/2019 15:58

Block her again

Sweetbabycheezits · 09/04/2019 15:58

It's so hurtful to have had a close relationship with someone who turns out to be so opportunistic. Sorry, OP...it is a sad situation, but the others here are right...she doesn't value you for who you are and for the friendship you've given her. Don't do it...that money very rightfully is yours and your DC's.

Aveeno2017 · 09/04/2019 15:59

I would not dare ask my friend of 20 years for money never mind someone I have known only a year. Do not feel guilty for saying no.

swingofthings · 09/04/2019 16:01

Just be totally honest, that you lent her £100 some time ago which she didn't repay when she sadlid she would and as such, you can't take the risk to lend more and not see the money back for some time.

Say you still want to be friend and are worried about her financial problems and she can talk to you about it if it helps but you are not in a position to lend her any money. If she really care about you, she'll reply, if you don't hear anything from her, you'll know for sure where you stand.

MissLadyM · 09/04/2019 16:01

Shocking! She's a classic shameless CF. Run away, she sees you as a cash cow and a mug. Don't let her and get back what you're already owed!