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To refuse to lend my friend money?

282 replies

Jenasaurus · 09/04/2019 15:31

I met my friend a year ago, we worked together and clicked, she is in her late 30s and I’m in my early 50s, she lives with her DH and DS many miles from both their families and I got the feeling she say me as a sort of fill in mum. I babysat for her DS, who even called me Nannyjenasauraus. We spent most lunch times together at work and confided in each other about lots of things. Things however have changed since my DM died last year.

I have inherited a large sum of money and this seems to have caused an issue between my friend and I. My friend has just purchased a brand new 4 bedroomed detached house in a nice area, her DS goes to an expensive nursery and her DH earns over 50K a year but she has recently started asking to borrow money from me.

She has left the place we both worked at and now has a well-paid job close to where she lives. We met a couple of months ago for a meal and she brought up that it was my pay day the following day, she asked if she could borrow £100 as she was going away at the weekend and hadn’t budgeted correctly, she promised to pay me back when she got paid 4 days later…but her pay day came and went and no money arrived.
I wrote this off, but then she asked me for £13,000 and said she would pay me back. She had a loan and was paying a lot of interest on it, so she wanted me to pay it off and instead she would pay me a monthly amount. I said I wasn’t sure as I have most of my money tied up and have 3 grown up children who I wanted to be able to help financially with house moves etc. She then asked for a lesser amount of £3500 and would repay me at £20 a month.
I kept avoiding the subject and in the end blocked her number and on social media as it was awkward and embarrassing. I did/do like her and before I had this inheritance our relationship was lovely. Anyway she managed to contact me by work email and said she hoped she hadn’t upset me and that she missed me. So I started chatting to her again and unblocked her number etc…now today, she has said “I hate to ask but you have always been so good to me before, I am unable to extend my overdraft and I desperately need some money”…I was amazed, 1 couple of days in and she is back to asking for money again! Should I just walk away or tell her in plain terms that I am unable to lend her any money. She did repay £25 of the £100 I lent her in the end but I wouldn’t have minded her keeping that to help her out, but it was a red flag if she can’t repay a £100 how could she repay £3000+?
Despite the inheritance I only early £20k a year and live alone, so really can’t give away the money my mum left me, I really believe my mum would want this to benefit her grandchildren and be upset if I lent it like this.
So as not to drip feed, my friend told me a lot of information about her life, including the fact her DH smokes a packet of cigarettes a day and a bottle of wine a night, in addition when the purchased their home my friend immediately paid out to get all the hallway retiled despite it being brand new and freshly decorated, this is one of the reasons I was hesitant to lend the money, if it was for her or her family to keep a roof over their heads or eat, then yes I would but this is different, so why do I feel guilty?

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Rabblemum · 10/04/2019 18:45

Do not lend this woman a penny and take her to court for what she owes you. I rarely lend money to anyone and it's never more than a tenner. If money never came back to me they wouldn't be my friend for much longer. Toughen up and think about why you're too nice.

Kaddm · 10/04/2019 18:46

I’d cut her off for this (if possible re work)
I know you consider her a friend but a year isn’t long to know someone. She’s a total cheeky fucker, with form!

ShowMeTheKittens · 10/04/2019 18:47

Oh dear. Friendship should not cost money. I would give her a piece of my mind. She sounds totally venal stupid cow.

KittyInTheCradle · 10/04/2019 18:48

The fact that she told you the story about asking for a loan, could also have been her sneaky way to gauge your reaction

PositiveDiscipline · 10/04/2019 18:50

Don't lend her the money because I am telling you, she will cut you off as a friend rather than pay you back.

Suebreo · 10/04/2019 18:54

Please do not lend/give this woman any money. Please tell ur Family/Children what she is doing, the whole story, let them read ur post. This woman is coercive and a con merchant, u need protection. Xx

Tinkobell · 10/04/2019 18:59

I'm so sorry this horrible using woman has ended up trying to use you for her own selfish, greedy, nest feathering ends. 💐 I'd feel bloody hurt. Please stop calling her 'friend' OP, she isn't a friend at all - she's a coercive user. If she keeps hassling you, I'd consider telling her you may have to contact the police.

Tinkobell · 10/04/2019 19:00

If you don't cut her off OP, I'd be prepared for her to door step you and ask for cash ... she sounds that barefaced and frankly dangerous.

Timewarpdancer · 10/04/2019 19:12

Con merchant is the right description. How anyone can have the audacity to ask someone lend them this amount of money when they have known them a year and not paid back previous loan.
This woman is no friend, I wouldn’t put any of my friends in this situation

Timewarpdancer · 10/04/2019 19:16

I also find it quite worrying that you feel guilty about saying no to this, you need to be stronger and believe in the decision you have made because that’s how a lot of cf get away with their behaviour, their friends/ victims are too soft to stand up for themselves

Serin · 10/04/2019 19:29

Keep away from her OP.
She is not your friend, she is a bully and she clearly thinks you are a pushover.

silverspider05 · 10/04/2019 19:35

A big NO! She is no friend of yours, once the money has gone she will move on to the next person she can manipulate. If she can't afford something it is not down to you to bail her out, and she has shown her complete lack of respect for you by failing to pay you back and then having the cheek to ask for even more money... take it as the first £100 she got out of you was her way of testing how much you would push to get that money she owed back. She has clocked that you won't push for it so is going for more and more. You have yourself and your family to think about. Run for the hills and don't look back.

1Wildheartsease · 10/04/2019 19:37

1 she is asking for a gift - not a loan. Don't be confused about this. (£75 was the test)

2 she has plenty of money but lives beyond her means. She will continue to do this with your money. Your sacrifice won't save her.

3would your Mum want to give this money to her rather than to you or your family? Be true to your Mum on this

SirGawain · 10/04/2019 19:41

Tell her you invested it in your pension so you can’t touch it until you’re 7 This sort of suggestion really annoys me, the OP does not need to make excuses as to what she needs the money for, it is her money and her “friend “ is trying to steal it.
As Mumsnetter’s are very fond of saying, “No.”, is a complete sentence.

perfectstorm · 10/04/2019 19:41

So you provided her with a lot of free childcare, all presented by her as you being an adoptive Nanny and how much her child loved you - so evidence of closeness, rather than her taking advantage of you - and then when you inherited money, she sees it as hers to help herself to, even though you have children of your own (themselves the descendants of your mum, where the money originated), and are on a far lower income than she is?

She's awful. Bloody awful. I'm so sorry you have been put in this situation by her. Some people have no shame at all.

AgentJohnson · 10/04/2019 19:42

Don’t kid yourself that your recent good fortune has changed her. She was always this person, opportunity has just brought it to the foreground

Itssosunny · 10/04/2019 19:44

OP, just say that she can't borrow any money from you because the money is on DC's saving accounts and you can't take them.
Why did you tell her about the inheritance? Such information should have been kept private or at least you should behave told her a lesser amount. In any case, just say no. If you agree to give her the money then make it formal and make her sign the papers otherwise you will never see the money back.

GeeksCanBeMumsToo · 10/04/2019 19:47

Sorry for your loss OP, and now this despicable cretin has chosen to see you as a meal ticket rather than helping you through this hard time. Please write her a message to say you’re saddened and hurt that she keeps trying to guilt you into giving her money at this sad time and that you never want to hear from her again, and then block her on everything again, including work email. Some people have no shame.

Candymay · 10/04/2019 19:53

This woman is no friend. Make new friends. She’s a user and it’s taken you coming into an inheritance to really see this. She’s a disgrace. Tell her she’s made you feel really shocked and uncomfortable and remind her that she owes you £75. Then have no more to do with her. She’s not worth a friendship, you’d never feel the same about her now.

Itssosunny · 10/04/2019 19:55

I would be tempted to say that you still owe me £75 from X month/year and now you ask for this amount. For this reason I am not going to lend you the money and please don't ask again.

Veryfriendlylioncalledparsley · 10/04/2019 20:03

Definitely don’t lend her any money, but is it possible that her dh is preventing her having access to any money? It certainly seems like she is a massive cf, but things may be different if you scratch the surface.

Passenger42 · 10/04/2019 20:13

Go around her house when she is out and tell her husband she owe’s you £75 and can he give it to you know please. Bet he will twig what she needs the cash for. I would hazard a guess she has a little coke addiction and he does also to go with the wine and fags and flash posh house lifestyle. Don’t lend any money as that is what broke up the friendship with her other mate. She has form for this and has no shame.

Starlight456 · 10/04/2019 20:21

I would reply with a LOL emoji.. then block.

Yorkshirelady · 10/04/2019 20:22

Please don't loan this woman any more money because it is highly unlikely that she will pay you back. If she had good credit, she would be able to loan the money from a bank. The fact that she can't do this speaks volumes.

From the tone of your post I get the feeling that you are having difficulty in choosing what to say to this woman. If she truly values your friendship she will understand. The friendship is on rocky ground either way. If you do loan her the money, you wont see it again and the friendship will deteriorate - but you will be significantly poorer. If you do not loan her the money, then she may take offence and the friendship will deteriorate.

Take heed, after all, you may not be the only person that she is asking and she may owe money to lots of people. If it were me....I'd run for the hills!!!

Jenasaurus · 10/04/2019 20:34

I’ve just caught up and read all the replies and feel 100% certain I will not lend her the money or that I am being unfair I’m not doing so. A PP opened my eyes when she said imagine reversing the situation and would I ask the same if her. Well no I wouldn’t even consider asking for a loan from her. especially having lost her mum so recently. In fact that’s another thing that bugs me. She was so kind and caring to me while my mum was in the end stages of her life. Really took the time out to listen and be there for me. Was that in hindsight all just part of the build up to ask for the loan? Either way it made me realise what I have to do. I hate walking away from her. I was very fond of her and she was the first person every day to wish me a good morning and chatted on Skype throughout my day. We could tell each other everything and I wanted to treat her to a holiday with me. Now it feels as though maybe I shared too much with her. Thank you for the responses. I’ve read all of them and touched you have taken the time to post on here.

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