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To refuse to lend my friend money?

282 replies

Jenasaurus · 09/04/2019 15:31

I met my friend a year ago, we worked together and clicked, she is in her late 30s and I’m in my early 50s, she lives with her DH and DS many miles from both their families and I got the feeling she say me as a sort of fill in mum. I babysat for her DS, who even called me Nannyjenasauraus. We spent most lunch times together at work and confided in each other about lots of things. Things however have changed since my DM died last year.

I have inherited a large sum of money and this seems to have caused an issue between my friend and I. My friend has just purchased a brand new 4 bedroomed detached house in a nice area, her DS goes to an expensive nursery and her DH earns over 50K a year but she has recently started asking to borrow money from me.

She has left the place we both worked at and now has a well-paid job close to where she lives. We met a couple of months ago for a meal and she brought up that it was my pay day the following day, she asked if she could borrow £100 as she was going away at the weekend and hadn’t budgeted correctly, she promised to pay me back when she got paid 4 days later…but her pay day came and went and no money arrived.
I wrote this off, but then she asked me for £13,000 and said she would pay me back. She had a loan and was paying a lot of interest on it, so she wanted me to pay it off and instead she would pay me a monthly amount. I said I wasn’t sure as I have most of my money tied up and have 3 grown up children who I wanted to be able to help financially with house moves etc. She then asked for a lesser amount of £3500 and would repay me at £20 a month.
I kept avoiding the subject and in the end blocked her number and on social media as it was awkward and embarrassing. I did/do like her and before I had this inheritance our relationship was lovely. Anyway she managed to contact me by work email and said she hoped she hadn’t upset me and that she missed me. So I started chatting to her again and unblocked her number etc…now today, she has said “I hate to ask but you have always been so good to me before, I am unable to extend my overdraft and I desperately need some money”…I was amazed, 1 couple of days in and she is back to asking for money again! Should I just walk away or tell her in plain terms that I am unable to lend her any money. She did repay £25 of the £100 I lent her in the end but I wouldn’t have minded her keeping that to help her out, but it was a red flag if she can’t repay a £100 how could she repay £3000+?
Despite the inheritance I only early £20k a year and live alone, so really can’t give away the money my mum left me, I really believe my mum would want this to benefit her grandchildren and be upset if I lent it like this.
So as not to drip feed, my friend told me a lot of information about her life, including the fact her DH smokes a packet of cigarettes a day and a bottle of wine a night, in addition when the purchased their home my friend immediately paid out to get all the hallway retiled despite it being brand new and freshly decorated, this is one of the reasons I was hesitant to lend the money, if it was for her or her family to keep a roof over their heads or eat, then yes I would but this is different, so why do I feel guilty?

OP posts:
StrongTea · 09/04/2019 17:53

Sounds like they are living above their means, if you did loan money to her the demands would never stop till you had no money left.

Rockmysocks · 09/04/2019 17:54

Loud and clear: NO!

PLEASE don't be persuaded to lend her any more money. She's got big balls to keep asking. She won't pay you back and you'll be chasing her forever kicking yourself for being a mug.

morefoolyou · 09/04/2019 17:54

My goodness yanbu
She sounds like she is living way beyond her means and is taking advantage of your kindness.
She knows that you've got this money and thinks you can afford to sub her.
I've got a friend, a school friend who is a millionaire a few times over... lots of cash to spare. Never in my darkest hour would I even dream of asking her for money.
You need to cut her out, she's using you I'm afraid.
You sound kind, stay away from her

NoSquirrels · 09/04/2019 17:55

She wasn't happy to be your friend while you had no money - she was softening you up and she would have tapped you for money in the end regardless. Perhaps not to the tune of asking for £13,000, but she would have started asking eventually anyway, even on your salary of £20K.

She'll have a whole list of kind-hearted people like you who she "misses and wishes they still spoke"...

Also, OP, please don't say to yourself that you would lend "if she was in real need". Just say you will not lend money. £20K is not a large salary, you have family who need you. It's OK to say no.

Help someone with money troubles out by offering to go through their budget with them and help them save money. Do not lend, no matter what the sob story is. You obviously are easily made to feel bad, or guilty, as is often the way with kind-hearted people. So you need to protect yourself from chancers.

WootMoggie · 09/04/2019 17:55

If my mum had not passed away and I had no inherited any money my friend and myself would have carried on having a normal friendship

No you would not. I know the type.

I am sorry that you thought you had a friend. Consider breaking off all contact. Otherwise she will develop an alternative strategy of asking you to pay for things and once in a blue moon, will return the favour and claim its equal.

People who do this kind of thing are very, very sly. Avoid.

screamifyouwant · 09/04/2019 17:57

I can't get my head round that she wants to pay £20 a month for a £3.5k loan that's got to be up there with being the cf of all CF Shock.
Because she hasn't paid the £100 she probably thinks you will just give her £3k she is a CF .

screamifyouwant · 09/04/2019 17:59

And never ever say I'll lend you money if your desperate, that's like a green light to CF's next she'll be saying she can't pay mortgage/ food etc .

gamerchick · 09/04/2019 18:02

If my mum had not passed away and I had no inherited any money my friend and myself would have carried on having a normal friendship

You wouldn't have, especially now you know she has form and why she loses friends.

If you want to be her friend, tell her this asking for money thing has tainted your friendship and if she doesn't want the same thing to happen in the future then she needs to pack it in.

I've had them, parasites who you grow to love dearly but end up having to bin off. You mourn the friendship you had and you move on. It's ok to feel sad about it. They do have a lot of qualities and without this parasitic part of them they could make good friends. But sadly it's all you see in the end.

WhereYouLeftIt · 09/04/2019 18:02

"she asked if she could borrow £100 ... she promised to pay me back when she got paid 4 days later…but her pay day came and went and no money arrived. ... I wrote this off"
Cynical me wonders if this small loan was a test of sorts. She was testing to see how much you'd pursue getting your money back. By not pursuing the money, she figured she could play the same game with a bigger amount.

She's living beyond her means, and she'll happily live beyond yours too. I's so glad to read that you have no intention of lending her money again! But I'd push her for the £75 she still owes you. Push her hard.

eddielizzard · 09/04/2019 18:07

Paying £20 a month for £3500 means 14.6 years to pay it off! What a joke.

She sees you as a cash machine, not a friend. I'd block her again. There is no friendship here, just manipulation.

Ragwort · 09/04/2019 18:24

Just don’t do it, twice (Blush) we’ve lent money to friends/family to help out in a ‘crisis’ ( urgently needed a rental deposit), well over £1k in both cases. Never got it back. We’ve lost touch with the ‘friend’ but really disappointing when we see our relative, clearly they could afford to pay it back but just don’t bother despite many reminders.

MadSweeney · 09/04/2019 18:34

I'd be tempted to tell her to pay back the £75 this month and you'll sit down and sort something out.
Then never speak to her again.

Lllot5 · 09/04/2019 18:52

£20 a month for £3500 if my maths is correct that’s 175 months fourteen years?! Can’t get my head round that.

HerRoyalNotness · 09/04/2019 19:09

NO!!

If you feel you can’t be direct like

“Please stop asking, it’s affected our friendship and I’m not doing it ever”

Then try

“I decided to pass it all on to my DC/put in a trust for DGC so why he can benefit now, I don’t have it anymore”

Chloemol · 09/04/2019 19:34

In s word no. Just tell her the money is now invested for your children and you can’t touch it. Then when she doesn’t contact you again you know what’s she really thought of your friendship. Block her

purplecorkheart · 09/04/2019 19:40

She is not your friend I am afraid. She sees you as a meal ticket. I know that is hurtful to hear. I think you need to tell her strongly that you will not or ever will lend her money and that you expect all the money she owes you paid back at the end of the month, posted/dropped into your workplace (you will not get it,). Then block her on everything and do not engage with her.

Cakemadeoffruit · 09/04/2019 19:43

Definitely do not lend her anymore!

If it's easier than saying no, say you can't as you've already spent it all/given it to your children so you don't have any money left.

However be prepared for her to loose interest in you as that's what cheeky fuckers do when you are no longer of any use to them. That is a reflection on her not you, so try not to take it personally. Flowers

DarklyDreamingDexter · 09/04/2019 19:43

She's an absolute user. Just say NO.

Isleepinahedgefund · 09/04/2019 19:45

Bejaysus why would you even THINK about lending her £13k?!!

Isleepinahedgefund · 09/04/2019 19:47

And by the way this is how scammers work. She’s borrowed a small amount and worked out that she doesn’t have to repay, and then repaid enough to give you hope it’s forthcoming. Then asks you for a huge amount.

Same thing when those people ring up pretending to be from the bank, you tell them your details and then they try a small transaction to check and then do a large one.

Sparklybanana · 09/04/2019 19:50

Tell her you invested it in your pension so you can’t touch it until you’re 70 and even if you hadn’t done that she didn’t pay back the £100 so she’s never going to pay back more than that. You’re not a bank, you’re not her mother and you have no incentive to loan her any money given her behaviour. Tell her to stop asking or sod off completely.

Foxmuffin · 09/04/2019 19:51

She’s taking advantage of your good nature. I bet she’s up to her eyeballs and knows she can’t really meet the repayments to you.

ScienceIsTruth · 09/04/2019 19:51

Please do not lend her any money.

Just say: "No, I'm not lending money to anyone. It only causes problems and I'm not comfortable doing so. Please don't ask again."

You know that you won't see a penny of it back, and she's out of order to even ask.

Strawberry2017 · 09/04/2019 19:55

I'm so sorry your so called friend has done this.
It's such a shame that someone you cared about has chosen to see you as a bank and not a true friend.
She doesn't deserve you.
Block and move on. X

SolitudeAtAltitude · 09/04/2019 19:58

Don't lend it

But also, for the future, never tell anyone about your exact financial situation, especially not about windfalls, inheritance etc.

Best to keep these things private, as you now know

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