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To not warn DH it is my birthday this Friday!!

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Gradiva · 01/04/2019 22:05

This is my first ever thread!

Feels like the time to post here as I have a small dilemma and can’t ask friends in real life as they may warn him! I think DH (7 years together) has forgotten it is my Birthday this week. I always usually remind him or organise something because he is “always so busy” and I can usually tell a few days before it has slipped his mind. I remind him because I don’t want to have to see he has forgotten. As I have always reminded him I have never been able to prove if his has actually forgotten. He always claims to have known but I’m not sure. (Presents usually come after the day/as a promise to spend some money on me/ or flowers from Waitrose on way home etc!) I’m considering saying nothing. Becsuse how will he ever learn unless I let him forget? I won’t get angry at him, but I will show him I am disappointed Grin. Because it is just a bit disappointing. I don’t get (or expect) much on the day, unfortunately that’s how I’ve let us become, but I would like him to remember! He is crap at the small things (never bringing me cups or tea even though I always do for him and tell him how much it means to me, mothers’ days cards made at lunchtime after reminding etc) but I think they are important. AIBU to not remind him? He will accuse me of “setting him a trap”. I kind of am... but it might be a good lesson?!

I have friends whose husbands really go to town organising nice surprises. So AI-also-BU and shallow to wish I had a romantic thoughtful husband too or are some men just not that way and never will be?

OP posts:
M4J4 · 02/04/2019 17:11

Not sure what to do about the tea.

I say stop making him tea. Bonus points for getting a tea for yourself and sitting down on the sofa next to him, taking big slurpy sips Grin

AintNobodyHereButUsReindeer · 02/04/2019 17:22

I don't think I could stay with someone who cared so little about me that he forgot my birthday every year Sad

gingerbiscuits · 02/04/2019 17:29

Leave him to it & see what happens but if he does properly forget then let him have it both barrels - it's utterly shit for him not to remember your birthday- what a selfish wanker! No excuse can cut it for that as far as I'm concerned - he's a grown man & it's the same date every year!! As you might be able to tell, these things bother me greatly!!

HopefulAgain10 · 02/04/2019 17:31

My dh goes out all out for my birthday, mothers day, Christmas without any sort of reminder. What makes it so special to me is that his gifts and ideas always need to be pre-ordered or booked in advance which says to me I'm not a last minute obligation.
I wouldnt be with someone who spends everyday with me, shares a life and DC with me and needs prompting to make me feel special.
Its not about the gifts, it's about the thought.

EggysMom · 02/04/2019 17:32

I've asked DH, who freely admits that he cannot remember a single birthday (not even his own). He reckons that if the OP's husband always says "I know, you don't need to remind me" then the OP should not remind her husband this year, and see what happens. She'll either be pleasantly surprised, or she'll have the happy knowledge that she can use it as a metaphorical stick to beat him with for months if not years afterwards

hiyahen · 02/04/2019 18:04

My DH was bad...Really bad... He never gave me a Mother's Day card or gift on my first Mother's Day. He never seemed to care about birthdays or anniversaries and let them go past with zero fuss.

After 2 years of it, I was annoyed and fed up so I had a sit down conversation with him. I just told him how upset I was and how horrible it is when my friends ask me what my husband got me for my birthday and I had to say he didn't get me anything but he's said I can order whatever I want off his amazon account...

It turned out that he didn't know what to get me and was terrified of getting it wrong so he buried his head in the sand and did nothing.

We've arrived at a compromise. He knows Mother's Day is to be a card & flowers or chocolates until the kids are old enough to do it for themselves and for birthdays I give him a small list a month before and he chooses off it and passes the remainder of the list to his mum (so I always get everything I want Grin) Anniversaries are a meal out, we choose together where we go and the meal is the gift.

It's not the most romantic arrangement, but he has other great qualities and this allows me to focus on them rather than dwell on his faults.

I think you should talk it though with him. Let him know how you feel and give him a chance to be open with you. Most guys don't want to let you down. They just need a bit of help to be a better husband!

Waveysnail · 02/04/2019 18:12

I got myself moonpig app. Never again will I forget a birthday lol

Gradiva · 02/04/2019 20:43

Hello and thank you all for your replies!

This thread has thrown up so many feelings and provided so many new perspectives. It has made me confront a lot about our relationship that I already knew but have been in denial about.

It was a genuine question - at least I thought it was when I wrote it! - but I guess I know it is playing relationship games.
The thing is, for years I’ve suspected he would have forgotten but I can never hold my nerve and find out. I passive aggressively book something a few days before and then make him feel guilty that he didn’t arrange it for me, all the while not really caring about the birthday and sort of weirdly relishing having a reason to be annoyed with him.
But I just feel like I always protect him regarding my birthday, or rather protect myself from discovering/confirming if (as I suspect) I really don’t sit high on his agenda.

Every year I remind him a few weeks and then a week before (usually go out so have somewhere booked etc.) but the last few years with babies etc I have strongly suspected that without my 2/3 reminders I would get nothing (less important) and he would forget (that’s the issue). I was getting a small present usually bought on the day - ditto the card. But it’s not really about the present, it is about him showing he cares enough to make the effort just in case I was a “birthday person”.

For unknown reasons my birthday isn’t in his calendar, nor Is his mother’s which he recently forgot. I was away and reminded him but he still forgot - apparently - though I suspect he knew all day and kept putting off calling her or popping over with flowers.

And if anyone is interested we do have a kitchen wall calendar but I deliberately didn’t mark it up this year...

Anyway, thank you all for your replies. It’s good to see I’m not the only one with a crap DH. He is a real mixed bag. Though I’m sure if I posted everything about us I would get many LTBs. And you would probably be right.
But I’m not going there. Not today. This is a small corner of our relationship that I can investigate and it will probably shed light on the greater whole of our life as a couple.
Keeping quiet is an entertaining challenge for me. I have to keep his mother away as she will remind him! I won’t go mad if he forgets. I may not say anything for a few days. I really do think he has no idea as he mentioned having plans for Saturday (that he apparently told me about).

And many of you say it is game playing. And you are right.

And as one poster noticed, I come across as daft. Well yes, I am. Often. I am writhing mass of contradictions but one thing I try hard with in my relationship is to be thoughtful (and I do feel guilt when I think I’ve let someone down) (and please can I blame hot air balloon-gate on having had very little sleep last summer when I booked it and two very demanding babies.

But yes, I am daft. And probably doubly so for doing this.

My sensible side Halo says tell him and have a grown up chat about it all.
My self-destructive side (and I really wanted to write “my dark passenger” then - any Dexter fans?) says don’t tell him and see what happens Grin

Well...I will let you know how it goes. Smile

OP posts:
Gradiva · 02/04/2019 20:46

Oh and I don’t get many cards sent. But I’ll be on the look out to intercept them. And I’m seeing my parents and his mum later this week without him... which means I can hide their gifts in the car...
I am terrible, I can see that... just can’t help myself.

OP posts:
ivykaty44 · 02/04/2019 20:49

So it’s west/ have you told your dh or reminded him of your birthday? Or have you not decided?

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 02/04/2019 21:00

All I’m gonna say is this:

If you are living with a man who you feel truly and absolutely doesn’t value you at all then you guys need to get to marriage guidance stat.

Else your marriage will fry in the hot oil of alienation, resentment and ultimately hate.

Trust me I have 100% been there. And your posts and your thought processes remind me of before I left him.

One day i realised that life is - literally - too short for this shit.

Cryalot2 · 02/04/2019 21:17

Flowers a very happy birthday in advance .
Either way I do think you need to talk. Let him know how unloved or not special you feel.
I do hope you enjoy your day.
Treat yourself with his card big time. Book in at a spa and tell him you are going for a day or two if you can.

Fucket · 02/04/2019 21:56

If he forgets what are you going to do (I mean in the long term)? Because you may not be able to change him into wanting to be thoughtful towards you.

And if you go down this path it may have a point of no return. Which you maybe happy with, I couldn’t live with a man so thoughtless towards me, but if you want to fix this, this is a very risky option.

I’ve had my birthday forgotten by my family (when I was single) it bloody hurt a really deep pain, that goes right to your heart and it is going to be very hard for you. Trust me nothing like the pain you experience when you kind-of-think-you-know he forgot. You feel worthless and second best and knocks your confidence to smithereens.

Just be prepared for if he doesn’t behave the way you want him to after your birthday.

Pinkblanket · 02/04/2019 22:01

For goodness sake this drives me mad, people endlessly hand wringing and moaning about other people not sorting their birthday out for them. It's YOUR birthday, you're a grown up, seize the day, organise yourself! It's within your power to make it amazing.

Fucket · 02/04/2019 22:08

But if you are the one who always organised everything, surely you have earned the right to have someone do that for you. And it doesn’t even have to be an amazing day, a card, tea and toast and a, “i’ll Take care of the kids today” shows you care and some appreciation, a gesture of love.

It’s important to OP why shouldn’t her dh do something nice for her that would mean a lot to her? It’s not that much of an ask is it?

Have you never loved anyone so much you wanted to see them happy that you, their most favourite person in the world loves them enough to make them feel like a queen/king for one day?

hazandduck · 02/04/2019 22:22

Ah, OP, I agree with you. DH has never forgotten my birthday as such but it is right after Christmas so he can’t really and he does it all on Christmas Eve. It’s the lack of thought. I always plan his things so far in advance and really think of what will make him happy. I think it’s that which hurts.

I tried to not remind him of Mother’s Day this year, and told my sister and she bloody text him to remind him! I just hate the responsibility always being on me to buy the cards and the presents for his family! I actually forgot his mum’s birthday one year, he’s an only child and she invited us over for dinner but didn’t mention what for. He didn’t get her a card or anything. And yet somehow I got the feeling I was being judged by his family for not bringing anything and not remembering! Why is it considered the woman’s job to organise these things.

Well, any ways, my rant is over! Buy yourself something nice in case he does forget! And a very happy birthday from me :)

WatershedMoment · 03/04/2019 07:22

"And if anyone is interested we do have a kitchen wall calendar but I deliberately didn’t mark it up this year..."
Why?

Meandwinealone · 03/04/2019 07:36

I get it. It’s absolutely shit not to remember loved ones birthdays and is is indicative of bigger problems
At least op is clever enough to realise that. I would be mortified if I forgot someone’s birthday.
All the other people who say it’s ok are just facilitating people treating them with no care.
Even if I didn’t give a fuck about my own birthday I have enough empathy in my body to know that others might not feel the same as me.

Gradiva · 03/04/2019 10:19

Watershed
Why?

Because of my inkling that he still hasn’t absorbed the date... I would like him to remember. Or to be more honest...i’d like him to forget, feel a bit guilty, then remember for the rest of our marriage (how ever long that may be). TLDR = part of my evil plan to “trick” him into forgetting.

I also have a brother who I just adore but have to remind him about our parents’ birthdays/Mothering Sunday etc. I suppose I am more forgiving of him (I was mean to him as a child so feel I owe him extra kindness now).

I also have little boys so I am aware there will be no one to remind them about getting mummy a card - err..except for mummy.

I just want to feel specialBrewFlowersBrew

On another note, I’ve decided to buy myself a footspa for my birthday as my feet are horrendousBlush and I hope that perhaps by leaving them in warm water all the crusty bits will be easily rubbed off??

My plan for Friday night - if he really has forgotten - is to plonk myself down on the sofa with my feet submerged and if he enquires about the new purchase I may or may not reveal it is my birthday present!

Can’t wait for nice feet though!

OP posts:
FriarTuck · 03/04/2019 10:28

If you're going to get pissed with someone for not doing exactly what you want then you need to tell them. End of. People aren't mind-readers, they're human. They make mistakes, they forget, they try hard and get it wrong. Be clear and communicate. Much more chance of a happy ending.

MollysLips · 03/04/2019 10:31

Footner is amazing for feet!

MollysLips · 03/04/2019 10:34

FriarTuck -- I think birthdays are a pretty well-known tradition in this country, and in fact the whole world.

Ruru8thestars · 03/04/2019 10:39

Good luck!

Fucket · 03/04/2019 10:57

OP it’s not your responsibility to make sure all the men you know never forget important dates. If you keep doing this you are enabling them all and your children.

Just stop doing it. You are an idiot for doing it. Sorry but you are. You have made yourself into a doormat and some kind of martyr.

Having a penis does not prevent someone from doing emotional labour. Put your foot down if not for yourself for your sons. Because believe me more and more women do not want to be lumbered with a bloke who can not take care of his own personal affairs. So don’t turn your sons into men who think women will do it all, thinking Women enjoy it so I don’t have to bother. Girls of today are growing up knowing that they don’t have to put up with this BS and deep down you know you want your sons to form happy and healthy relationships.

CostanzaG · 03/04/2019 11:09

What Fucket said.....100%

I have never reminded my DH about a birthday and i will make sure my son knows he should take responsibility for things like this.

My ex expected me to do all birthdays but he was a misogynistic twat.