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Fiancé’s cousin is hijacking our wedding

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Annamich · 29/03/2019 01:21

Where do I start guys? I’m going to give you the short(ish) version. Last year my fiancé and I had told his family ( and by family I mean his mums side who are all meddling and involved in eachothers business because they are greek, loud and infuriating) that we would be getting married in 2019. One of the aunts kept badgering me for a date which I could not give as we hadn’t booked a venue but did say we will give everyone a years heads up. Turns out she kept asking because she wanted her son to get married that year and indeed after he got engaged, they booked for 2019. Fiance and I decided that two close family weddings would be a huge strain on the family (being greek we’re quite extra with our outfits and very generous with pinning money on the bride and groom so weddings are a huge expense) so we would postpone for the summer of the following year. No hard feelings, they found a venue and booked everything before us so fair enough. So fiancé got a call from his other cousin a few days ago...her demeanour was sort of tail in between legs and broke it to him that she will be having her wedding summer of 2020 a week before or after ours as we are going abroad for our wedding and she wants to also do it in the same country. Please note it’s not a destination wedding per se as its our home country and we all return several times a year for a holiday and to see family. My F (will refer to Fiancé as simply F, mother in law MIL, sister in law SIL, fiances meddling family as FMF) told his cousin that it’s a shock to us all as she hadn’t previously mentioned intentions on getting married and that she’s not engaged yet and also frankly she would be stealing our thunder to an extent. Then it got messy. His cousin didn’t get the reaction she wanted so proceeded to call other family members, crying to them and calling us unreasonable. That we’re not compromising and giving her dates therefore she will be forced to book any date she wants. She even had one family member scream at my fiancé and call him a petulant child and selfish because we don’t want our weddings so close together. One reason being that it takes away from both couples and two because we had postponed as not to inconvenience our families and here she is bull dozing us and causing drama. Then it gets even more complicated. Obviously F and I are upset so even though we haven’t told his hijacker cousin the full extent of our anger, we’ve been speaking to My f’s mum, dad and sister. His mum hasn’t been particularly indignant that the cousin ( who is known for her selfishness) is trying to detract from our special day, his dad somehow is faulting my F because he is angry about it and his sister is urging us to give a date and making out it’s not tgat big of a deal. My SIL didn’t even want hijacker cousin as her bridesmaid because she didn’t want her causing drama yet I’m meant to roll over and take it? I’m furious!!! I text the hijacker cousin (aka HC) and simply said that when I have a specific date, like all other couples do, I will announce a date. I did however tell her it would be end of Aug- beginning of Sep depending on venue. She proceeded to tell me that because I’m not giving her a date, ger family won’t be able to go to her wedding and essentially im not compromising and ruining it for her. Yet again I explained that I did not have a date, that we are in the process of visiting our prospective venues. I also explained that I can’t dictate to anyone what they should do and that her timing was inappropriate and inconsiderate to the family. She promised me that she wouldn’t steal the attention from us and that it would all be about us and it won’t even be like she’s a bride to (referring to the 2 week holiday everyone would likely take for our weddy). Is she for real? Does she actually think this is my concern? The fact that she’s even voiced this just set of alarm bells. She has a way of causing havoc and drama and I simply do not want my wedding to be tainted by her histrionics. To top it off l, following a conversation with SIL, I had asked her my HC was putting her in the middle going back and forth with message ls. SIL got ger back up and told me that it’s to do with her brother and her cousin. Essentially telling me she has ecery right. She totally missed the point that I thought it was unfair on her to feel this obligation and unfair on us to keep being pressured by everyone and have so many opinions thrown at us. I apologised later for speaking heatedly and explained it wasn’t directed at her and that I was frustrated at the situation. I apologised three times and she didn’t acknowledge a single one. Now I’m upset with SIL because this isn’t about her and she’s not the injured party. And I know damn well that if HC was having her wedding a week aprt from SIL then she would have gone all guns blazing and MIL would have caused a war. I feel like all our family has somehow made us feel guilty and inconsiderate when in actuality we’re being shafted. I’ve calmed F down and told him none of it matters and we’ll still have a great time because he’s a hot head and could easily fall out with all of them. Inside however im angry, frustrated and sad. I guess I need to hear an objective perspective. I’m finding absolutely no support from the family and I’m so mad at all of then for piling on top and then making out to be the victim.

OP posts:
Cautionsharpblade · 29/03/2019 07:37

I thought Greeks view marrying in a leap year as bad luck? Shift your wedding from 2020. Also I’ve never seen Greeks pin money on a dress, only Cypriots.

twinkle999 · 29/03/2019 07:40

Is it really that childish? a double destination wedding basically being foisted upon you. I wouldn’t be fucking pleased either.

SoupDragon · 29/03/2019 07:40

Have you considered a joint wedding?

twinkle999 · 29/03/2019 07:42

Also lol at all the people who presumably had big weddings recommending you elope.

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 29/03/2019 07:45

OP I totally understand your need and desire to have the wedding you want at a time of your choosing and in the way you like...thats fine no one would ever have issue with that but you need to decide when....everyone is hanging on waiting for a date...i know how hard things are to organize for brides and grooms but if guests are travelling they need to get organized too...seriously though you sound so stressed and upset to me it seems daft to put yourself under so much pressure.Is it all really worth it for one day? Weddings are very rarely perfect no matter how much planning goes into them something will go wrong ,it always does somewhere.My weddings both of them...we so small and the reason for that was there was less to go wrong! Why not, and I mean this kindly just go get married? I am sorry I am ignorant of Greek traditions but why not go get married on a beach at sunset with both sets of parents and a few close friends? That I reckon would be far more intimate and special than say 200 guests all costing a bloody fortune too for you.Marriage rarely is about the day..its soon forgotten the sign of a true marriage is the hard work it takes afterwards which makes it special.It seems daft spending so much money to me when you could have that cash for going through life when you might really need it ....

Shitonthebloodything · 29/03/2019 07:45

Fuck me, I got halfway through that and gave up. Grow up and pick a date FFS. It really doesn't matter.

anniehm · 29/03/2019 07:50

The mistake you made was not booking your date. Why should another couple be banned from a whole summer?

Venues for 2020 will be getting full - either work out a solution or actually book for 2021 and send out invites ... or book a cancellation for this summer, it's only March (I booked in June for August!)

BunsOfAnarchy · 29/03/2019 07:56

OP
Just to clarify, your wedding and the cousin wedding are both in the same country?

I think it would make sense to then space them closer together so a majority of close family wont have to choose between 2 weddings and only be able to attend one. That would make sense.

I think, realistically you won't be able to have a stand alone wedding, unless you have it here in the UK...

Just look out for number 1. Yourself. Book your date and let everyone else sort their own shit out.
I can (sort of?) understand as i am Indian and 2 cousins getting married close together can be a recipe for disaster but its not the end of the world.
My Sil married my brother in July and 2 weeks later was her close cousins wedding. Luckily both in UK. It was pretty great and everyone really loved the wedding fever lasting a month!

Would it be feasible to have yours around easter than the Summer?

NotSureThisIsWhatIWant · 29/03/2019 08:10

Just read the first post.

... And that’s why, my exh and I sworn, on the morning after the wedding, that if we EVER married again, we would elope.

My son had a clandestine baptism and a secret first communion. I am pretty sure my exh has had a wedding without telling his family, if I was in the same position I would do the same. Nobody was happy in the family about this but they have certainly had far far less to complain about.

It was the best way to deal with all the Mediterranean family expectations and aberrations... Highly recommend it (and stop delaying your marriage for these idiots, if you continue trying so hard to please the family, you are going to get fed up of each other and splitting)

pissedonatrain · 29/03/2019 08:15

By the way things are going it'll be 2030 by the time you get married.

Can you have a small wedding this year with close family and friends?

Tunnockswafer · 29/03/2019 08:19

Car crash

Yabbers · 29/03/2019 08:23

I defend my right to want a special wedding without having someone dictate to me and give me ultimatums as well as cause so much friction
Your right to what??

Sounds like your cousin is being really sensible. Everyone dragged to a wedding overseas, then have to do the same the next year, and possibly a third? If everyone is travelling anyway, having a second wedding so they don’t have to shell out for flights is sensible. I’d appreciate this.

You’re the one causing friction.

BookWitch · 29/03/2019 08:26

I don't claim to understand all the "no but yeah, he said she said"' in your first post, but if all the families travel to Greece for the weddings, surely having two weddings in the same trip would reduce the stress and expense for your family?
Or are you worried the gift money would be split in two, and you won't get as much?

I echo the PPs, you sound like hard work.
When I got married (in the olden days), we didn't even Save the Date, you book a date/venue and send invitations, if people come they come, if they can't they send apologies (and maybe a card and gift).
I don't know when weddings became so complex.

Every bride wants their wedding to be 'Special", there is nothing special about that believe me. And no matter what you might want YOUR wedding won't be the highlight of your guests' year.

Bringbackthestripes · 29/03/2019 08:41

She promised me that she wouldn’t steal the attention from us and that it would all be about us and it won’t even be like she’s a bride to (referring to the 2 week holiday everyone would likely take for our weddy). Is she for real? Does she actually think this is my concern?

I thought that this was exactly your concern so I’m a bit confused. Op I do understand where you are coming from-every bride wants their day to be special and you feel it will be diminished if she has her wedding near yours-logistically for the guests it would be ideal but you said she isn’t even engaged. Just pick your date and plan the wedding you want and let her plan hers. It really doesn’t matter if it’s the week after or the day after, it will still be your special day. Falling out with all the family over it, when you are going to spend the rest of your life having a relationship with them, is going to make your marriage very hard work.

Serialweightwatcher · 29/03/2019 08:55

Just pick a date - you've basically just kept everyone hanging for ages and how can someone save a date when they don't know what date it is? If she decides to get married the week after you, the rest of the family can moan at her if finances won't stretch to presents etc for hers ... unless you're worried she'll pick the week before yours and scupper your presents? Just pick a date and get married - weddings are stressful enough without adding to it

WheelyCote · 29/03/2019 08:55

Elope

Burlea · 29/03/2019 09:02

Pity your opening post didn't have paragraphs it would be easier to read. I gave up as it was a jumbled mess.

another20 · 29/03/2019 09:03

I think we need a diagram like on the CF parking threads.

Then I think that should keep turning up the heat, escalating the drama, take notes along the way, write a script and set it to music, you would have a Broadway hit on your hands!

another20 · 29/03/2019 09:10

Why not go back to the 2019 idea and tag on to the other cousins wedding? How many years have you been planning this ? Do something spontaneous

Echobelly · 29/03/2019 09:18

It sounds to me like OP needs to book the dates ASAP not because of interfering cousin, but just so everyone can plan next summer. Interfering cousin has made it political, but at base there is a simple logistical issue rather than anyone stealing anyone's thunder.

DianaT1969 · 29/03/2019 09:20

How much money do you set to lose in the pinning money part of the ceremony? Due to 2 weddings that year and the expense it costs family to travel to Greece twice? Half of what you were expecting? Accept that loss now. Find and book your venue tell everyone the date, let you DF's cousin sort her wedding out when she wants.

steppemum · 29/03/2019 09:27

It is a wedding.
The point is to get married. Not to have a massive party that bankrupts everyone.
If you want to do that, then do it, planning 2-3 years ahead is ridiculous.
Calm it down, book a date in 6 months from now, go ahead and plan the wedding you want.
Ignore cousin.
If some peoepl can't make both weddings, so what, shrug your shoulders and enjoy those who can make it. It doesn't change how married you are.

If too many weddings come together, the family will just have to (shock horror) wear the same outfit, and pin less money on the bride.

Live with it.
The cousin is really not the only drama queen here

skye199 · 29/03/2019 09:52

Are you sad because you won't be getting as much money/gifts as you would have it you were the only wedding that summer? Sounds like it.

Booboostwo · 29/03/2019 10:09

Just book a date and send out invitations.

I am Greek BTW, Greeks go to two billion weddings each year. If you're not at a wedding, you are at a christening.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 29/03/2019 10:11

I think I agree with @EchoBelly and @WellThisIsShit -
Also, I completely understand what it is like to deal with a pack of belligerent, relatives who all think that they get to dictate your lives. I do understand that having moved your wedding to accomodate them, you are now being date chased by HC.
But also that it is more sensible for two weddings abroad with a lot of the same guests to be close together. That is a fact that you have to deal with, F's family and HC have rubbed you up the wrong way on this with a bit of foot stamping but it doesn't make it any less true.. so maybe stop resisting and accept that's the way it is, in big familes, there will be other weddings.
BUT. After that, You are voluntarily marrying into this family. They won't stop being drama queens, are you prepared for that?
How are you going to manage them now and in the futre? I think families have their own individual cultures and ways of doing things and traditions and they hang onto these tightly, which means that you can sometimes find yourself under a lot pressure. Sometimes you cannot be in the right and you cannot please everybody. Which means you have to please yourself and your fiance. You have to think ahead to decide what your own mini family of three want. That way you are prepared.

So start with the wedding. You do need to pick a date and stick to it. Have the wedding you and your F and supportive people want. Let the rest of the cards fall where they may... Forget the whole gift thing. Its up to his family if they want the weddings close together to work out how much they are willing to spend, or save on flights etc. That is their problem, not yours. The family wishes are to have the weddings abroad and close together, so all the logistics of how they achieve that are up to them. Your wedding, within certain logistics, is up to you.
After that.. you have the option of seeing the HC henceforth as an interfering enemy or just another family bride planning her wedding.
Take a big big step back from the family drama... Don't give out too much information that is just like asking for their approval. Stand your ground when it really matters but be reasonable if necessary. Don't get drawn into a tit for tat situation where you withold co-operation because they've done this or that in the past. That is the same as getting drawn into their way of doing things. Stand apart from that. Don't let them dictate how you handle things. . When you know what you want and what you are doing it is easier to just get on with it and that stops people jumping in.
Forget about comparisons, yes some silly busybodies may compare, but they are the people who would compare the weddings if they were years apart. So forget all that..
Focus on the fact that you are starting your life together with your beautiful baby and partner, you have your health, your familes and can afford to get married. So many people don't have these things.
Congratulations on your baby and wedding, wishing you all 3 all the best. x

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