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Homophobia within the Muslim community

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thankssomuchforthat · 27/03/2019 09:07

Please can we keep this thread calm and good natured as this is a genuine question.
I was genuinely shocked at a spokesperson for the Muslim community on GMB condemning gay people as sinful. Saying being gay is fundamentally wrong. Saying most Muslim people vehemently believe this. Is this true? Or are gay Muslims tolerated within the community? What would happen if a Muslim teenager was gay. Would the family disown them?
Genuine question. I suppose I mix in circles that are tolerant of homosexuality.
Please keep comments nice and friendly.

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GoFiguire · 27/03/2019 09:09

Put your tin hat on OP.

chopc · 27/03/2019 09:12

I recently spoke to one of my good Muslim friends about this. Sadly they do think this and apparently it's written in the Quaran 🤷🏽‍♀️

thankssomuchforthat · 27/03/2019 09:13

To be honest its a genuine question. Hoping people can play nice and polite. It took me by surprise to hear someone being so strident against gay people.
I was curious to hear from Muslims about what the general view is within the community. Hoping the discussion doesnt attract sarcasm and nastiness. I was just genuinely curious.

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lenovo2019 · 27/03/2019 09:15

Sadly yes it's pretty common, I have Muslim friends I went to school with and when one of our guy friends came out as gay they stopped hanging out with us anymore as we weren't going to ditch him.

Why can't everyone just at least be civil to each other? It's awful.

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LagunaBubbles · 27/03/2019 09:16

I saw him. It made me so angry. What a lot of intolerant prejudiced judgemental bullshit. Being gay is a choice. Apparently. And it's sinful, but hey that's not homophobic at all.

TheQueef · 27/03/2019 09:17

Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.
Lots of religions forbid homosexuality.
Luckily most sensible people take no notice.

Lweji · 27/03/2019 09:17

You were surprised. Really?
It will be shocking to you that for Catholicism and fundamentalist Christians, it is too.

thankssomuchforthat · 27/03/2019 09:17

chopc....Interesting. I was curious to see the difference between what is taught in the Qur'an and how gay people are accepted within the Muslim community. The GMB guy said gay people are wrong but 'would not be excommunicated'. So would they be accepted in a mosque if they were openly gay, be accepted by the community?

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LagunaBubbles · 27/03/2019 09:18

That's correct Sarah many religions do. But guy on TV was a Muslim. My husbands Dad has never accepted that his daughter is gay and this is to do with his Christian religious beliefs. Sadly this has caused her a lot of mental health issues.

badlydrawnperson · 27/03/2019 09:18

I am not a Muslim but my understanding is that this is religious conviction, the same as in some other religions. I am not religious.

Lysistrataknowsherstuff · 27/03/2019 09:20

It's most religious communities - Christian evangelicals have the same attitude (Old Testament, Leviticus I believe). Have a look at an American evangelical sermon on YouTube and you might be in for a shock as to what they believe.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 27/03/2019 09:21

I dont have any muslim friends but one of my friends is a Jehovahs witness and she said that as a religion its ok to be gay as long as you dont do anything about it Confused

thankssomuchforthat · 27/03/2019 09:22

I know all about how homophobia is rife within religion but was curious how gay people are accepted within the Muslim community. eg are gay teenagers accepted? Or are they expected to 'chose' to be heterosexual. Or is it like in the Catholic community I have experience of where gay people are accepted and people tend to ignore what the church says about gays.

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Drogosnextwife · 27/03/2019 09:23

Well most religions condemn homosexuality and have done since the beginning of time so I'm confused that you have never come across this before now.

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HeyDuggeesCakeBadge · 27/03/2019 09:25

I once talked to a Muslim gay man at a gay club. He was married with children and his wife knew that he was gay but turned a blind eye apparently as it wasn't allowed in his community so it was an arrangement that worked from them.

I felt desperately sad for his wife and for him.

thankssomuchforthat · 27/03/2019 09:27

Drogosnextwife: I know all about how homophobia is rife within religion but was curious how gay people are accepted within the Muslim community in the UK. Sorry, should have stated I meant within the UK.

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ThatsWotSheSaid · 27/03/2019 09:27

I know plenty of Muslims that are tolerant of gay people at work or in the white community but I don’t know of any openly gay Muslims which probably says it all.

Dinosforall · 27/03/2019 09:27

He would be in his 30s now but certainly a Muslim university acquaintance was thrown out by his mum at 17 when she found out he was gay.

The BBC website has recently done a number of features on LGBT issues in minority communities.

LimeKiwi · 27/03/2019 09:27

What @SarahJConnor said. Bit bemused on the fixating in the media of Muslims as a lot of religions don't "agree" with homosexuality. Christians being one.

Unfinishedkitchen · 27/03/2019 09:29

Being gay was actually illegal in the UK until pretty recently and there are still parts of the country where two men would be scared to kiss and hold hands in public so I’m unsure why you’re shocked that devoutly religious people are homophobic unless you’re extremely young??

thankssomuchforthat · 27/03/2019 09:30

I wasn't shocked that he was comdemning gays per se, just the fact that he was allowed on national TV so openly homophobic in an age where everyone goes on about 'PC GONE mad'.
It made me curious about if this view is the common view of UK Muslims or if he was an extremist.

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