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AIBU Michael Gove for Tory leader?

167 replies

longwayoff · 24/03/2019 07:11

So trustworthy and dependable. So profound, 'we've had enough of experts'. Such an obvious choice really at a time of national crisis. Words fail me.

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Alsohuman · 24/03/2019 08:26

Lidington is being suggested as a caretaker PM to get Brexit over the line with a leadership contest in the autumn. Amber Rudd would be my choice, I really rate her.

longwayoff · 24/03/2019 08:28

We are completely asterisked. There's nobody, across the board of parties, that I could vote for. Never heard of Liddington so possibly him as I know nothing awful about him? Keir Starmer for Labour? Liberals? Shrugs hopelessly. New party things? Hell's bells. Awful.

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TopBitchoftheWitches · 24/03/2019 08:29

James Cleverly is my MP and he is utterly useless.

He does nothing for his constituency, nothing at all.

SciFiRules · 24/03/2019 08:30

Is Angela Rudd not MP who wants to repeal maternity leave and pay? I believe the full plan was to remove all employment protection for those employed by small companies. This is someone we could do without.

Ronsters · 24/03/2019 08:32

Gove seems to be top contender, 4/1
Nicky Morgan also being touted as a possible contender, according to the Telegraph. A good unifyer and approved of by several Brexiter MPs, apparently.

GabrielleNelson · 24/03/2019 08:34

What we need is a general election with no party allegiances allowed. Each candidate would have to be assessed on their own merits. No, I don't know how it would work either, but the current two party system is not working any more. We need to start again. There are a few clever, principled, competent people scattered amongst the parties but not nearly enough and none of them in charge or in the running to take over from the incumbents.

We had a government of national unity during the war. Couldn't we go for that again?

W0rriedMum · 24/03/2019 08:34

Gove will keep pushing till we go over the nmi deal edge, same as JRM and Boris.

Rudd - would propel us to another ref which would be great for me but would also trigger a GE.

Labour - why won't they say what they want? Only Tom Watson has nailed his colours to any mast.

We've 70 odd million in the UK and this is the choice??!

reallybadidea · 24/03/2019 08:35

I think that Jeremy Hunt is probably the least worst option. He was actually a very competent health secretary, in that he achieved what he set out to do - bringing the NHS to the brink of collapse so that it can be more easily privatised.

As long as he can see a way to both save the country from economic ruin and make himself lots of money, he'll do a fantastic job.

Justfivemoreminutesplease · 24/03/2019 08:36

I’m sure I read that even Gove’s friends were previously saying that they wouldn’t trust a man to run the country who thought it was a good idea to literally take a hoover to a loo to unblock it...

GabrielleNelson · 24/03/2019 08:36

This thread is about the Tories, obviously, but what about Labour? Corbyn is a disgrace. Total failure of leadership at a time when it's never been needed more. How is it possible for Labour to be behind in the polls given the state of the Tory party?

Alsohuman · 24/03/2019 08:37

Amber Rudd is the only Tory MP with an atom of humanity in her soul and common sense in her head. I think you might find Esther McVey is the one who wants to grind the faces of the poor.

Fazackerley · 24/03/2019 08:37

David lidington or Oliver letwin

SubisYodrethwhenLarping · 24/03/2019 08:38

I agree Kenneth Clarke makes lots of common sense in debates (although I have no idea what he was like in earlier years) but as Father of the House I think he wouldn't want it or be eligible

Also, Hilary Benn who is chair of the committee for brexit so he really has studied the papers concerning brexit, but obviously he is labour

Yvette Copper is somebody else that has studied the brexit papers but again she is labour

I have no idea why the whole brexit was not cross party from the start

Fazackerley · 24/03/2019 08:39

Nobody in their right mind would want it.

SubisYodrethwhenLarping · 24/03/2019 08:40

Amber Rudd only just made it as a MP she only won her Hastings seat by a fraction so might not be there after the general election

Foxyloxy1plus1 · 24/03/2019 08:40

I feel disenfranchised. There is no party now, that I could vote for.

Gove is the MP forthe area I used to live in. Odious toad doesn’t even begin to cover it. Useless constituency MP and self serving, creepy, slimy, running out of suitable adjectives idiot.

We are truly asterisked, as has been said. I see no one who can sort it, in any party.

Walkaround · 24/03/2019 08:42

The country did this to itself when it decimated the Lib Dems. Too much angry voting and not enough thought of consequences.

SciFiRules · 24/03/2019 08:42

I just check it was Andrea Leadsom who wanted to remove employment protection in small firms not Amber Rudd. However, it does feel like a leadership contest is one between hard right rabid dogs, self's serving incompetent swines and... that's the problem there is no "and"!

MindyStClaire · 24/03/2019 08:43

As someone else has said, Gove is very anti GFA so the thought of him chills me to the bones.

Flaverings · 24/03/2019 08:44

I feel disenfranchised. There is no party now, that I could vote for.

This.

brizzlemint · 24/03/2019 08:44

My MP would be a good choice, Bristol west seems to do quite well with her.

Alsohuman · 24/03/2019 08:44

True, I’d forgotten that Rudd’s count went to several recounts. The Times is tipping Nicky Morgan this morning.

Bluntness100 · 24/03/2019 08:46

I also quite like Amber Rudd. Whenever I hear her talk she seems to have common sense and principles. And lack the smarmy self serving gene the others are dominated by.

GabrielleNelson · 24/03/2019 08:47

Johnson - despicable man. Widely regarded as one of the laziest and worst Foreign Secretaries we've ever had. Flagrantly unfaithful to his wife over and over again and she's now kicked him out. Surely nobody would trust him to be PM?

Gove is a slimy git. His behaviour around the referendum should rule him out, surely. He stabbed Johnson in the back (fortunately) but I don't imagine that endeared him to his party.

Also, I don't normally feel it's appropriate to say that someone's spouse or other family connections should rule them out, but in this case I have no qualms. His wife is Sarah Vine who is surely a political liability. Her Daily Mail diatribes are toxic and extremely divisive. She excelled herself yesterday when she tweeted 'Elitist, much?' on learning that the mustering point for the march was outside the Hilton on Park Lane. We weren't inside quaffing champagne, you nitwit! Then trying to claim that any Leavers attending would have been lynched. Made my blood boil when I read that while travelling home. It was an incredibly civilised, orderly event when you think of the numbers involved and the strength of feeling on the subject. The police were there but had nothing to do. I genuinely believe it wouldn't have turned out like that if it had been a huge Leave march. The racists and xenophobes would have been out in force and I'd have feared for the safety of non-British people and people of colour.

ShitAtScarbble · 24/03/2019 08:48

Boris fucking Johnson? Like exactly what we need right now is our own home grown fucking Trump. Because we're just not in quite enough shit are we?
I despair. These are indeed terrible times.

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