Just a reminder that we are nearly 3/17 of the way to getting it revoked

[NCforpoo]

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

2.65million.
Andrea Leadsom said there would be clear case for taking action if it reached 17million.

I signed it the day it launched. Personally, I don't care if it's been botted, I also think there are plenty of Brits abroad to sign it. I don't care if parliament hand-waves it away when they have to debate it. I don't care if it changes nothing. All this means is that I am still in the same state I was before the petition existed.

I care that it's a brief moment of like-minded people sharing a small bit of solidarity and sticking two fingers up at this, frankly, farce of a government.

Remainers know that the government gives nary a fuck what we plebs think. The ref result would be invalidated had it been binding. Plenty of polls about to show the nation has in fact changed its mind.

Petitions, marches, demonstrations - they rarely effect radical change, but they do serve a purpose, and that is freedom of expression, conscience and opinion. It reminds politicians that they are neither omniscient nor universally approved of. It is, in fact, an expression of democracy and I happen to think that is all to the good.

I signed but I don’t ththink I am on the electoral roll as I am not registered to vote although I am eligible to vote. I hope my signature isn’t deleted. They could check it with the council.

My email went to my junk folder. So, if you are still waiting for your email don't forget to check there.

Well, I have 6 different email addresses, all used weekly, some ersonal, some business. So I could vote 6 times! Many people have a similar number... wait! I also have my MN accont.... 7 emails for me!

Still, if signing it makes you feel better, go for that catharsis. The pigs ear of Brexit means we are all entitled to seek relief wherever we can!

Interesting. I wonder if Scottish Independence supporters think its crucial only to vote for things when there's a clearly laid out plan on the other side.

I’ve signed. Not only do the views of the electorate change - the actual composition does.

Both my parents (voted leave) have died since the referendum and my niece (wants to remain) has turned 18. My family has, overall, turned from a ‘net leave’ voting group to a ‘net remain’ one. We have regular elections to account for this constant change so there is nothing undemocratic about going back ‘to the people’ to see if views have changed.

Why should it be revoked?

Because it was conducted in so corrupt a fashion that, had it been binding, it would legally have been declared null and void.

The idea that democracy has been served by a referendum that was corrupted by lies, criminal activity and that was vulnerable to foreign influence should be stamped on hard. The UK deserves better.

Those who haven't seen the confirmation email - have you checked your junk folder? Mine went there (Hotmail).

Ah well, according to Mr Farage on the radio this morning - most of the votes eminate from Russia. Obviously the Moscow postcode (equivalent) is acceptable to the Gov website.

Oh and Putin was promoting Brexit - so why isn't he supporting the leave now petition.

Mine was in my junk folder too!

can't think of ANYTHING polite to say about this latest 'protest' it's a total joke, like so many things these days.

My issue was that it should have been a two part referendum - one part to vote 'in principle' and another to vote for an actual package (or not). I was partly 'for' in principle because I do think that the EU is corrupt and the West/Central nations have fucked over those further East and South - but I'd appreciate a vote over an actual deal - the facts as it were.

yetanotherspartacus

And had David Cameron given one tiny thought to how to run a referendum properly by looking at how the Swiss/ Irish etc conduct theirs, he would have done exactly as you suggest - would have had a vote to ratify the final deal. That is not undemocratic, it's the reverse. Undemocratic is leaving the outcome undefined, so that it gets filled with whatever those in power choose to project as 'the will of the people' and then refusing anyone the right to confirm whether that was ever the case or not.

You cannot call it s democratic vote when there so many irregularities regarding the "leaving case". In any democracy that in itself would cause an annulation of the referendum.

@Alsohuman

There wouldn’t be 17.4 million pissed off leavers, some of them are dead now.

That's an incredibly nasty and vicious thing to say.

Moreover, I know more people under 50 who have died since the referendum, than people over 50 who have died since the referendum.

@MadeleineMaxwell
I signed it the day it launched. Personally, I don't care if it's been botted

I assume you equally don’t care about so-called Russian bots interfering in the referendum either? Or just not bothered when it’s something you personally support?

You have to put your name and postcode in

Good job no-one knows the names and postcodes of ANYone else then.

@MadeleineMaxwell

I signed it the day it launched. Personally, I don't care if it's been botted

Wow.

That really says it all!

I get quite irritated when people insist that the vote was democratic. I wasn't allowed to vote, as a non-resident British citizen, yet colleagues who are not British, but happen to live there, were.
I live in Europe and do not think it is a good idea for the UK to leave. If anything Britain would be far better taking a more proactive role in Europe.
On a cynical day I think this is just an extension of the social engineering started in 1997.

So if there was another "democratic vote" and we then voted to stay in the EU is that the end of it? Or will this now be a regular occurrence to check whether we'd like to be in or out?

I assume you equally don’t care about so-called Russian bots interfering in the referendum either? Or just not bothered when it’s something you personally support?

Well, that wasn't bots, it was illegal funding, which is an entirely different kettle of fish. It has been investigated by the proper authorities and proven. And then there's the whole fake news and micro-targetting stuff. Rumours of botting are just that at the moment - rumours.

Do Leavers only care about Russian interference when it's something they personally care about (like Farage today) or are they all calling for the ref result to be invalidated and I've missed it?

@americandream so what? It's not a referendum, it's a petition. The stakes are not the same. Plus you missed the entire point of my post by focusing on just one part of it and not the whole context.

And had David Cameron given one tiny thought to how to run a referendum properly by looking at how the Swiss/ Irish etc conduct theirs, he would have done exactly as you suggest - would have had a vote to ratify the final deal. That is not undemocratic, it's the reverse

I quite agree.

I get very frustrated by people moaning that they weren't allowed to vote even though they are British. If you weren't allowed to vote, you haven't lived here for a very long time so why should you have a say.

Your post has shown you up to be a complete hypocrite Madeline

How so, @MissionItsPossible?