Just a reminder that we are nearly 3/17 of the way to getting it revoked

[NCforpoo]

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

2.65million.
Andrea Leadsom said there would be clear case for taking action if it reached 17million.

NoCauseRebel:
"Remember parliament voted against revoking article 50 only a couple of weeks ago"

So will this petition actually make any difference? I fear not!

I'm still waiting since yesterday lunchtime for my email with the link to confirm I'm signing the petition. I imagine there are many others also waiting.

The thing is, it's not legally binding, and the government don't have to do anything. Indeed, there is no evidence that it's 2 million 750 thousand different people. There could be 100s of people signing it hundred of times each. (Even 1000s of people doing that.)

I even saw someone on facebook encouraging their remainer friends to sign it as many times as possible under different email addresses. (So it looks like different people.) And to switch off your router between signings to give a different ip address.

So I don't think this means anything, or is going to make any difference.

It's just a petition open to fraudulent signatures. It can't mean anything at all. Are we to assume that all the people who haven't voted want to leave?

Or everyone who doesn't match tomorrow wants to leave. Both activities are pointless.

The thing is, it's not legally binding, and the government don't have to do anything.

Just like the referendum then?

March*

That is... not how IP addresses work.

Besides, the petition doesn't have the power to actually revoke article 50. But it does have the power to force Parliament to discuss it as an option. Which at least is a nice protest.

Nobody with an atom of sense thinks the petition will affect anything but opinion. It does, however, indicate to the government the extent of frustration at its performance.

You are no where near getting it revoked , a petition is pretty worthless to be honest

For clarification I voted remain and was pretty angry for a long time at the result , but there was a vote and according to the voting rules the vote was to leave .
We live in a democratic country and we must abide by the majority vote , otherwise all we believe in and have fought for will all be in vane

None of you take into account the 17.4 MILLION pissed off Leavers.

Do you think Remainers and Leavers live in magically different worlds? Do you think Remainers want what’s best only for people who agree with them? Or do you think just maybe they realise that it is THE UK GOVERNMENT who has caused/failed to address the problems Leavers are concerned about? And are very concerned and worried not just about themselves but about the poorest and most vulnerable members of society regardless of how they voted? Do you think Remainers are upset because they ‘lost’? It’s because of what you, I and EVERYONE ELSE -apart from a few very rich disaster capitalist types and career racists - will be losing if we leave Europe.

This isn’t a fucking football match, it’s not even a general election, it’s the economic, social and cultural future of the country at stake. And when I say ‘country’ I’m not talking about a flag, a language, the fucking Blitz, I’m talking about PEOPLE who are going to suffer because of this. I would like to see pissed off Leavers’ concerns addressed tomorrow. They should have been addressed long ago. You may find many of them are the same as Remainers’ concerns if you bothered to think about it. Leaving the EU isn’t going to address any of those concerns and if you think it is, you’ve been had.

Ye gods!

Voting is one thing, one vote for every peson eligible...

Online shite is open to all sorts of hacking, multiple signings, made up names, people from all round the world etc etc.

It is one sided, self selecting and all sorts of wother reseacrh wrongs!

No petition is going to get anything revoked. It won't even be of any use to anyone who wants to use it! It iwll just evoke a wry smile and will be ignored.

Voting is one thing, one vote for every peson eligible...

Voting for a person is one thing, voting for a vague concept (leave) is an entirely different thing altogether.

Andrea Leadsom would just find another way to dismiss it in unlikley event it did hit 17 million as it’s not what she wants.

I think the most it can do is get idea debated in Parliament - and remind the politicians that about 16 million voted remain and they've no idea how many of the 17 million would still vote leave or for this version of leave.

I signed and encouraged other to sign but I don't think it will have the effect you think OP.

The petition is a strong expression of opinion but it's not going to mean that if it gets to 10 million, or 17 million, or 30 million that anything is going to change. It's not another referendum.

I've still signed it though.

Many havent received the required confirmation email, the website kept crashing and was down for a while for ‘maintenance’ .

Keep trying folks!

Voting is one thing, one vote for every person eligible...

Online shite is open to all sorts of hacking, multiple signings, made up names, people from all round the world etc etc.

Exactly this. I can't believe people are comparing it to the referendum, where was over 17 million individual votes to leave.

No way in hell have 2.75 million different people signed that petition.

Prob a 100,000 tops. (Signing it an average of 30 times each.) And yeah, it is possible to do that.

I did read on another thread that the MPs get an e-mail when someone in their constituency signs it – not sure if true but a would be a good reason to sign.

Keep trying, all large-scale expressions of opinion are good!

the petition gets the 'revoke' option on the agenda. 3 days ago, no one mentioned the word. now it is on the Guardian & BBC websites.

Revoke is the best option to buy time and sort out this mess.

Keep signing people.

We live in a democratic country and we must abide by the majority vote , otherwise all we believe in and have fought for will all be in vane

Tell that to Mrs. May. twice he's been rejected and she's STILL trying to get her shitty "deal" passed. By people we elected in the binding democratic vote in the general election.

Many unjust laws have been passed by a majority vote in parliament that was overturned when attitudes shift (for example, until 1991, a husband could not rape his wife). If attitudes shifted and laws stayed the same, THAT would be undemocratic.

revoking Article 50 would just give everyone an unlimited amount of time to sort out how to leave

So the current uncertainty, which is what has caused all the problems - NOT brexit itself which has not even happened yet! - should be allowed to continue indefinitely?? What a ridiculous idea

Regardless of how well you think it will work, at this moment in time it’s the ONLY voice the people have.

Leavers have had three years to put their plans forward. It hasn’t happened. Now is a good time to have a rethink. How many elections have been called since the referendum?

The referendum was not legally binding.

For all those saying Russian bots are signing, you don’t know that’s true, but we DO KNOW that Russian money went into the leave campaign.

The leave campaign broke the law. That should have invalidated the referendum anyway.

If Theresa May can keep bringing her deal back, we can have another referendum.

Revoke article 50. Get a PROPER leave plan in place THEN hold another referendum. While I’d love revocation to be the end of it, it doesn’t have to be. You can still have your democracy, but when it’s planned properly and not a farcical joke.

@AMERICAN DREAM
If you go to the petition you have to put your e-mail in and a link is sent to that. If you don't click on the link your vote doesn't count. i suppose people could have multiple e-mails and vote on them all but it is unlikely that 2 million people have done that. I believe the remainers have just had enough.

You also have to put your name and postcode in.

That can be checked against the electoral role.