To let you know thought crime is now a thing

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Apologies for the odious DM link, but this has really chilled me.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6827459/Catholic-journalist-questioned-caution-police-misgendering-someones-daughter.html

A woman is being investigated by police and faces a two year jail sentence for allegedly misgendering Jackie Green during a tweet. What has the world become when we cannot state simple, biological facts without fear of prosecution? And why do the beliefs of the mother and daughter (that they are now living as a member of the opposite sex) trump the beliefs of Caroline Farrow? I am all for protecting vulnerable people from hate crimes, but this is not a hate crime, and makes a mockery of people facing real discrimination and fear.

On the plus side, I may move to Surrey; clearly its ridiculously safe if the police have all that time to investigate this!

Thinking something like 'that lady is a child abuser cos she took her trans kid for treatment' is not a crime. Posting it on Twitter can cause harm and is therefore a hate crime. It's not rocket science.

So a woman who takes a 15 year old to Thailand to get his penis and testicles removed is fine, but stating that you think a woman taking her 15 year old son to Thailand to get his penis and testicles removed is child abuse, is a hate crime?

It says I'm the article that farrow is married to a priest... how can this be? Catholic priests can't marry... unless he is from a different denomination?

He converted to Catholicism from High Anglicanism after marriage @tiredandcold

Ah ok.. thanks

So there's a knife crime epidemic and the police and courts are focussing on this?!!

Just today - "hey! It's my intention to keep misgendering today!"

Yes, he's very clear about what he's doing today and why:
twitter.com/HarryTheOwl/status/1107811226162266113

His protest over the last two days is in support of Caroline and against this stupid waste of police time. Nothing to do with the tweet he was questioned about.

I didn't say it was anything to do with the tweet he was questioned about
Way to miss what I actually said.
That his account is, and was, full of it.
Was then, and seems to still be now.

She is a deeply unpleasant woman. Converting to Catholicism because your own denomination is too liberal speaks volumes.

Taking a 15 year old overseas to have genital surgery is shocking. I really hope that in 5, 10, 20 years time the adults these children will become will be content with their choices. If it were my child threatening to kill themselves I’m sure I’d be desperate too. I wonder how happy these teenagers are a few years down the line. It’s easy to focus all your unhappiness one one thing believe that dealing with that will make everything perfect. When that thing is fixed you can find that it was only an expression of your unhappiness rather than the root cause.

LimeKiwi in response to a post of mine where I described Harry's questioning by the police over a tweet he 'liked' and the police officer's concern over Harry's 'thinking', you said:

Yeah, but Harry The Owls account wasn't just that, was it, pencils? Saying it was all about that is either deliberately or unintentionally obtuse.
There was quite a few tweets from what I saw.

So no, I haven't missed what you actually said. Your response gave the impression that there were other tweets that the police had questioned him about.

You don't have to like Harry's timeline. That's irrelevant unless you're trying to make the case that the police should take a general interest in anyone's opinions just because you don't like them. The police were quite clear he had committed no crime.

By the way, 'misgendering' is not illegal either and it's not necessarily done to be mean. Sometimes it's done simply in order to accurately describe what's happening. In Farrow's case it wouldn't make sense to talk about a 16 year old girl being castrated.

I think it is absolutely beautiful that we have so little crime that there is time for the police to get involved in this.
The fuck what, why is this even a thing.
Who is responsible for this agenda.

You are completely missing what I'm saying. Again.
It wasn't just what you made out initially. It was more than that.

I think Harry's protesting at having policemen ring him up, question him about thought crimes and then READ HIM POETRY, is he not?

I'm right behind him. No U.K. citizen should be targeted by poetry-reciting police officers. It's Vogon tactics.

His time line wasn't just thought crimes though. If it's continual on social media, it's not just a thought, is it. It's more.
READ HIM POETRY. I'm presuming that refers to the Limerick thing he liked, RT'd and therefore enforced as something he agreed with?

This is a load of bollocks.

Also, no matter how strongly you feel you are something other than what you actually are, you are still not whatever it is you wish you were.

His time line wasn't just thought crimes though. If it's continual on social media, it's not just a thought, is it. It's more.

What? .

"Isn't just thought crimes"?

Since when did "thought crime" become a concept we airily dismissed? I can't imagine what you totalitarian types consider a step up.

READ HIM POETRY. I'm presuming that refers to the Limerick thing he liked, RT'd and therefore enforced as something he agreed with?

"Enforced"? What did he "enforce"? Nothing.

I have no idea what's happened recently in NZ, but when British police start ringing members of the British public to "check their thinking" they can expect a British response.

NZ? I wasn't even on about that. At all.
Thought crime hasn't been a concept we should airily dismiss. Nobody has said it has.
Thought crime isn't a thing. Deliberately harassing people on social media kinda is.

What's NZ got to do with the thread?

Just for clarity for those reading what I said wrong - I wasn't referring to just the tweets. I said, and will say again, not just the police tweets.
He seems out to harass/upset and the account is more than just a liked tweet or RT that some like to make out.

He seems out to harass/upset and the account is more than just a liked tweet or RT that some like to make out I'll add my voice here... Where? What? How? What have you seen other than his tweets?

As far as I can see he has a viewpoint and is annoyed by the actions of some people. He is saying so. He is refusing to acquiesce to a lie, to soft flannel his opinion.

For that he has been warned, threatened by a policeman - who said the company he works for [lack of research there] wasn't safe for trans people because of him and he would be reported to his boss! What country do we live in? How are you ignoring that?

For real clarity show us some of the 'other thngs' you refer to! And no, don't just repeat "read his Twitter"... show us!

What have you seen other than his tweets

I'm literally on about his tweets. The account. Nothing else. It's there to see by anyone, not in a secret parallel universe or anything.

That was supposed to be a confused emoticon. Not an eye raise one. Oops.

Thankfully the British people have a lot of common sense as hopefully to do the police. The police need to concentrate on major crimes.

He had the police call him because he liked a Limerick. LIKED.

He tweeted yesterday to see if he would get the same treatment as the women get, which is that women get banned from Twitter for misgendering, whereas men can make death and rape threats and nothing happens.

Which is the point of yesterday's tweets. At least read beyond the surface rather than just say he is a big old meanie.

Yes, I know he did.
The point is STILL being missed what I said though.

I wasn't referring to just the tweets. and then I'm literally on about his tweets. The account. Nothing else.

Can you see why posters are confused?