Netflix Madeleine McCann

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AIBU to think that any coverage of her disappearance is a good thing. I watched two episodes of the Netflix programme and think that if it were to bring her back into the spotlight, then surely it’s worthwhile? I’m on my own in that opinion here in our house.

Its a strange story and I must admit that I felt even worse for the missing children who were forgotten as a result of the focus on MM being so intense. Poor Robert Murat and the Russian web designer too.

I don't think that we'll ever know what happened to kids like Madeline and Ben Needham :(

Free childcare or leave your kids alone I know which one I would choose but they arnt me and I cant judge there actions its above my pay grade fwiw they paid the price in my opinion

Lania! I know hindsight is 20 20... But didnt it cross you mind they might fall in the water????? Whatever about being abducted. Drowning is the biggest killer of toddlers. I am so glad todays parents are more safety conscious. Makes me shudder when i hear the older generation complain about snowflakes.

leaving three children with a combined age of under seven, alone, in a dark, unlocked apartment, in a foreign country while you are out of earshot and out eyesight, checking on them (at best) once every 30 minutes, night after night is not a 'mistake' - it is a conscious decision.

I wonder how many other missing children/people get as much police time and public money spent on looking for them?

In posted on thread in telly addicts.

I have experience of these type of resorts.

They really do create a (false it may seem) sense of security.

The whole case was badly handled from all sides creating this division and the need for parents to defend themselves at all costs.
But I don't believe for 1 minute they won't regret their decisions of that night with every breath they take.

I'm always amazed by how much people pick up that people's stories slightly differ.
Well in all honesty I couldn't recall exact timings and movements of everything I did - just a general ball park figure.

Eg o went to Tesco around 10am. When it could well have been 9.50 or 10.10.

I sliced end of my finger off last week. I had to do accident report (I was working). I had to admit I didn't know exact position if my fingers during accident as I hadn't thought I was at risk so hadn't really been consciously thinking about where I placed them.
But I could give a very good description of what I did (and won't be doing again!)

Am still on first episode but I just don’t understand how she vanished so entirely so quickly. It seems to have been less than an hour after they were last checked that she was taken and the whole area was then searched ... mind you, I suppose it doesn’t take too long to spirit someone away if you have the means.

It’s all so tragic. I don’t judge the parents. I don’t think I would’ve left my DC that young but they made a mistake and have paid the ultimate price.

I really don’t understand the Netflix thing. I don’t understand why anyone would watch it? It’s hardly entertainment.
It just creates armchair detectives.

goldengummybear

I don't think that we'll ever know what happened to kids like Madeline and Ben Needham

Ben Needhams case was solved last year. As far as I can remember, they found his toy at a site which was under construction at the time. A construction worker confessed to a friend before dying of cancer that he killed Ben by accident.

I believe the case is closed now.

The money spent investigating the tragic loss of MM will undoubtedly benefit other people too. It will help police learn more about child smuggling routes, paedophile gangs amongst other things. They police wouldn't be asking for more time and money if they were not following credible leads.
Parent blaming serves no purpose.

She was taken, and it was planned due to their routine.

9pm Gerry checks on them (notices door was ajar more than normal) and sees they are all asleep.

9.10pm Jane Tanner sees a man carrying a child in pink pyjamas, walking fast and child was limp

9.30pm Matthew Oldfield offers to take Kate's turn to check on the children, but doesn't actually go in. Just listens outside.

10pm Kate's turn to check and she's gone.

MM went at 9.10pm, and because of their 'checking' they lost 50 minutes. That's a good head start.

But didnt it cross you mind they might fall in the water????? Whatever about being abducted.

I have to admit that arriving at the assumption of abduction so soon is the oddest thing for me. I would assume woke up, came to look for me.

I have watched the first 5 episodes & its obvious to me that the police moved waaay too slowly on Madeleine's disappearance, had no real leads & scapegoated the parents. It actually made me very angry when I saw the way that the police & media were picking over the family like vultures looking for morsels of blame.

I also don't think that I would leave my children & go for dinner but it has to be accepted that lots of parents were doing that in the holiday complex & its clear to me that these parents wete seduced by the holiday idea that this was a safe & secure location. I am certain that there is not a day that goes by when her parents don't feel extreme regret & sadness for deciding to go for dinner whilst leaving the chikdren to sleep. I don't think that anyone has the right to judge Kate & Gerry McCann for their actions, its the responsibility of the person that took Madeleine from her bed, away from her family who has to be held to blame - & i don't believe for a second that her parents had anything to do with their daughters disappearance, these claims were unfounded & ludicrous to boot. It must have been a traumatic time for the family which was compounded by the actions of the Portuguese police & media.

I for one feel that the documentary highlights not only this mysterious unsolved crime but it also highlights the plight of other children through it. This is not a bad thing, its a good thing.

There are vile people who will do horrible things to other human beings - it also raises to me the fact & that there are good people out there & parents who will go to the ends of the earth & back to find their children.
I still hope that Madeleine is found so that the family can be reunited.

9.10pm Jane Tanner sees a man carrying a child in pink pyjamas, walking fast and child was limp

It's been proved that that child was not Madeleine McCann - another British man staying at the resort came forward and said that it had been him carrying his sleepy daughter back to their apartment after picking her up from the creche.

He - and the clothes he had been wearing - matched completely the description given by Jane Tanner to the police, and so did his daughter's pyjamas.

I don't think that we'll ever know what happened to kids like Madeline and Ben Needham :(

We know what happened to Ben needham , it came out a couple of years ago

If anyone's interested, there's a link here to the 24 lawsuits the McCanns have brought - it's dated June 2011 though, so there may have been more since then?

jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2900-a-compendium-of-mccann-related-libel-actions

gluteustothemaximus

9.10pm Jane Tanner sees a man carrying a child in pink pyjamas, walking fast and child was limp

This sighting has been discounted. A man was bringing his daughter back from the night creche.

Thanks Lania790, I didn't know that. Back to the drawing board...

Stone don't want to spoil series for those who haven't seen it all. But you make a valid point and it's covered in there.

Lania! I know hindsight is 20 20... But didnt it cross you mind they might fall in the water????? Whatever about being abducted.

I suppose I trusted them not to try to get off the boat - clearly I was wrong and that's why we never did it again after dd turned up at the restaurant.

Around 5 years ago I was working in a hotel (duty manager) and a family approached me asking about a child listening service. Basically in other hotels, the staff will have a list of rooms where parents have left children and gone down to the hotel bar or restaurant and the staff are expected to check on the room when doing rounds. Not go in but just listen by the door. We didn't have this service and I explained to the parents. They rolled their eyes and laughed and walked off. Later that night we found a 7 year old alone in the fire escape stairwell. The hotel was very old with bits added on so was an absolute maze behind the scenes and they'd gotten lost. Apparently they left the room to try and find their parents.
Obviously the parents were furious at us for not watching their child, furious that our bedroom doors can be opened from the inside, furious that our hotel back of house areas were confusing, furious that their child had woken up etc. But they never once accepted that this was their fault. The restaurant was off to one side in the building too so when you walked in you would pass reception and up a grand staircase to the bedrooms. Anyone could have found the child and just walked out the hotel and the parents would have no idea.
I had to deal with the parents and all I wanted to shout was "did you not see what happened to MM?!"

You know, I knew a teen mum had her kid go in foster care for a while because she kept going clubbing and leaving him in bed. One of DH’s ex coworkers had social services come knocking because (unknown to her) her DP was going to the pub and leaving their baby at home while she was working nights.

Ooh, but if you’re a Dr going for tapas.

Lania sorry but that is shocking - they could so easily have drowned...

My husbands best friend works for a newspaper (not a tabloid), and he has said there are many things he and other journalists are forbidden to print.

He has no doubt in his mind what happened, but is not allowed to say to anyone.

We draw our own conclusions based on his enforced silence.

There are things that newspapers legally can't print, but why would that mean that your friend can't tell you?