Netflix Madeleine McCann

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AIBU to think that any coverage of her disappearance is a good thing. I watched two episodes of the Netflix programme and think that if it were to bring her back into the spotlight, then surely it’s worthwhile? I’m on my own in that opinion here in our house.

Maybe not worthy of major discussion, but surprising perhaps that the children of a GP and a consultant Cardiologist would share a toothbrush.

I can’t imagine anyone persistently trolling regarding Denise Bulger or sending her hateful letters in the post, or setting up forums to pick her apart and scrutinise every bit of her life.

I can't even believe that anyone would compare what happened to Denise Bulger, to the scenario involving the McCanns.

The level of hatred this case demands always intrigues me. Plenty of children have been abducted or gone missing or died as a result of not being watched carefully enough before and after this case but none appear to invoke the same level of feelings. I wonder why that is?

None of the other cases mentioned set up a fund that I'm aware of. None of the other cases had access to the press so quickly. The fund was set up a few days after Madeleine disappeared. None of the other cases had government officials involved (that I'm aware of). Also, none of the cases you mentioned had parents accused of being suspects. None of the cases that you mentioned had parents deliberately leaving children alone while they went out to socialise. All of the cases you mention with the exception of Ben Needham have had convictions made of murder. No-one knows (yet) what happened to Madeline McCann but many have their suspicions.

Certainly not with the animosity, or as publicly, or for as long as this one though.

I think if they'd just said they'd regretted it sooner a lot of that would have been curtailed TBH.

I think their rapid adoption of a PR strategy, their insistence they'd done nothing wrong, their minimisation of the risks taken by their group, were all things that made people suspicious.

It's understandable that they were defensive in that point, but I think it fuelled a lot of their media and public opinion troubles, and led to generalised suspicion, unfortunately.

It was a perfect storm of GM's personality, floundering PJ, lack of a police liaison officer. Lots of things.

I think the toothbrush thing would be regarded as a basic need the same as bedclothes , which when I was nursing children, not that long ago , was used as a marker for child neglect .

Maybe not worthy of major discussion, but surprising perhaps that the children of a GP and a consultant Cardiologist would share a toothbrush.

Judging by the state of the apartment and the villa they later moved in to anything was possible.

I can’t imagine anyone persistently trolling regarding Denise Bulger or sending her hateful letters in the post, or setting up forums to pick her apart and scrutinise every bit of her life.

There wasn't the same scope for conspiracy theories there though, was there? It's all bound up.

I can't even believe that anyone would compare what happened to Denise Bulger, to the scenario involving the McCanns

And so you just illustrated the point perfectly. 🤷‍♀️

And yet apparantly they did, just not as publicly

People share toothbrushes?!? 🤮

Is it correct that both of the apartment doors were unlocked (to allow for the half hourly checking) yet the bedroom window was forced open to abduct Madeleine? Seems odd, especially as the non-patio door backed on to a car park and was fairly out of sight of the Tapas restaurant. And no forensic evidence found, no hairs or fibres?

I don't see any harm in toddler siblings sharing toothbrushes for a few days - they probably forgot to pack one. If it was well cleaned there's no problem surely?

@itwaseverthus I think there is a theory that the abducter was disturbed by one of the parents checking and left undetected via the window.

Judging by the state of the apartment and the villa they later moved in to anything was possible

the apartment wasn’t in a state and IF the villa was who could blame them for not being on top of things? If they had people like you would have pulling them up for caring more about cleaning than their missing daughter.

It seems to me that if the parents hadn't been nice middle class educated professionals, instead of uneducated working class Joe Bloggs, this would have all turned out very differently.

Have the parents and their friends ever been formally questioned by the UK police for elimination purposes at least? Standard procedure for family members and people who last had contact with the missing victim of a suspected crime surely?

If not why not?

It's been reported that they refused to answer questions the 'bumbling' Portuguese police put to them but surely they would have engaged with the UK police as they requested their involvement?

They have never been declared innocent of any wrong doing. The Portuguese police concluded they were involved in the child's disappearance.

It is outrageous that public money is still being poured into this investigation when logical suspects (those who last saw the victim) have not been fully investigated or eliminated.

**This was a couple who deliberately and consistently went out every night with friends in the restaurant while their 3 VERY YOUNG children slept 100 metres away. With unlocked patio doors, and the door left open. Left for 30 minutes to an hour at a time. And refusing to have a baby sitting service.

And they are doctors. You think in their careers they would have come across incidents of children becoming very unwell quickly or injuring themselves when unsupervised. You think they would have been more aware of the risks involved.

@Lania790 you left your kids asleep on a boat?? What if they'd wandered in a sleepy state and fallen over board?? I can't believe I've just read that. I thought the McCann's and friends were stupid to leave their children in an apartment but to leave them on a bloody boat just defies belief.

And they are doctors. You think in their careers they would have come across incidents of children becoming very unwell quickly or injuring themselves when unsupervised. You think they would have been more aware of the risks involved.

Exactly. The children were in kids clubs all day, there's always a possibility of picking up bugs. One night my toddler started vomitted in his sleep which woke him up. He was on his back and he'd started to choke, but I was there. Immediately. What if they were sick? What if they had a nightmare, and were crying for 30 minutes - 1 hour?

Although MM did ask 'Mummy why didn't you come when me and Sean were crying last night'. If that wasn't a warning, to buck up your ideas and stay with your children, then I don't know what would have been.

gluteustothemaximus I don’t think there is any difference to the McCanns leaving their sleeping children alone while regularly checking on them to that of someone letting their children ages 4/5 to play out alone actually.

I've got to say all these comments make me feel I'm back in 2007. Ds2 is the same age as Madeline and I had many similar conversations with parents in his class. No one could believe they'd left such young children alone.

gluteustothemaximus I don’t think there is any difference to the McCanns leaving their sleeping children alone while regularly checking on them to that of someone letting their children ages 4/5 to play out alone actually.

Ah, but I don't agree with that either.

@MadMum101 Yes they were;

www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/apr/07/madeleinemccann

But there have been cases of children that age being allowed to play out alone that have been murdered and nobody it would seems blame the parents for allowing this.