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mumineedawee · 2019-03-16T17:57:58+00:00

AIBU to think that any coverage of her disappearance is a good thing. I watched two episodes of the Netflix programme and think that if it were to bring her back into the spotlight, then surely it’s worthwhile? I’m on my own in that opinion here in our house.

Colourpencils · 16/03/2019 23:04

TFBundy they were little children sharing a toothbrush no harm in that

nokidshere · 16/03/2019 23:05

Obviously that made no sense.

"Didn't, or don't" leave theirs

MadMillie · 16/03/2019 23:07

Nodik I never read the other thread, as I said above I would never leave my children alone to go out and eat/drink. The McCann's made the decision to do that. I have no sympathy for them, I only feel for that poor innocent little girl. Whatever happened to her she must have been terrified.

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 16/03/2019 23:08

They left 3 children under the age of 5 in an apartment to go out. The twins were 2 years of age and Madeline was 4. So yes, I do blame them for their careless parenting. Frankly, I would never have left my children alone in a hotel room or in an apartment to go out to eat and drink. Can you imagine if someone posted on here to ask if it was ok to to leave their children alone while they went to a neighbours house to eat and drink? They'd be crucified and the thread would be left to run without being deleted. So no, blaming the parents for neglect isn't victim blaming

So why come out with this Millie? It’s been said a billion times on the internet. We know they shouldn’t have left them, it doesn’t take away the pain and loss they’ve had and are still enduring. You come across as smug coming out with that sort of stuff whether you meant to or not.

fruitbastille · 16/03/2019 23:08

There was absolutely no need for the children to share a toothbrush and anyone not in poverty would agree that its strange

Get a grip, me and dh share a toothbrush, we are not in poverty.

Supersimpkin · 16/03/2019 23:09

What annoys me most about the MM case is how the relentless publicity scared the hell out of perfectly decent parents - not to mention children - across the planet.

And continues to do so. The publicity self-evidently hasn't worked for the reason it's supposed to be justified - ie finding MM.

No one adds to the terrifying phrase 'child was abducted' the words ''but no evidence of abduction here', which doesn't help.

MM's parents are more than entitled to look for MM, and they're convinced she was spirited away to a new life, but everyone else involved in petrifying anyone who reads the papers with that one-sided view has been very irresponsible.

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 16/03/2019 23:09

You have no sympathy for them? Really?
Wow.

makemineapinacolada · 16/03/2019 23:10

I then read KM's book and found it very discomfiting. Not because I think the M's are responsible, but because some of the narrative just seems wildly inappropriate (concerning her sex life with Gerry

What did it say?

nokidshere · 16/03/2019 23:10

@MadMillie if you read the other thread you would see plenty of people who did leave theirs, or themselves got left as children, or who know people who have done or still do leave theirs.

It might not have been commonplace but it wasn't a rare occurrence either.

HerRoyalFattyness · 16/03/2019 23:12

Get a grip, me and dh share a toothbrush, we are not in poverty

Just strange then. Why on earth are people sharing toothbrushes? Its weird and pretty grim tbh.

MadMillie · 16/03/2019 23:14

@GreatDuckCookery

You're spoiling for an argument on the internet. Jog on. Of you can't accept people have differing opinions that's your issue not mine ☺️

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 16/03/2019 23:14

My oldest DC is 24. I have always found the idea of having dinner with friends and leaving young DC incomprehensible, even though I know others who have done it.

I like my children, we wanted to be with them on hoiliday, so we’d eat quite early wit them. Then we’d go for a stroll around the resort or town with the D.C. in their buggies when they were too tired to walk. Often they’d be asleep in their buggies and we’d be able to have a nightcap somewhere. Safe and fun.

ColeHawlins · 16/03/2019 23:16

Just strange then. Why on earth are people sharing toothbrushes? Its weird and pretty grim tbh.

Weird, but not indicative of criminal tendencies.

nokidshere · 16/03/2019 23:16

I posted this on the other thread but it's just as apt for this one.

The level of hatred this case demands always intrigues me. Plenty of children have been abducted or gone missing or died as a result of not being watched carefully enough before and after this case but none appear to invoke the same level of feelings. I wonder why that is?

No-one would dream of saying that James Bulgers mum should not have let go of a two yr old in a busy shopping centre, or that 5 yr old Sarah Payne should not have been out playing with her siblings in a field, or that the two little boys that Mary Bell killed should not, at 3 & 4 yrs old, been out playing on their estate, that Ben Needham shouldn't have been allowed out in his (grandmothers?) garden. And I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other cases that could be cited.

So what makes this case the one that everyone has to shout from the rooftops about, have such strong opinions about? Whipped to a frenzy by the media coverage and internet trolls.

The fact is that all parents weigh up what risks they are prepared to take with their children. And 99.9% of the time they can justify the risk because nothing bad happens. There are a great many people who have used a babysitting service in a hotel, or a listening service, or who have just gone to the bar with or without a baby monitor. There are a great many more who's children have accidents in or near the home that are totally preventable. But there is a sense of "it won't happen to me" because you have done it before and so can justify doing it again.

There are no winners. A child is missing presumed dead, her parents will be vilified for life regardless of the outcome and her siblings lives have changed forever.

And still, every day, a child is being neglected somewhere, left to their own devices, abducted, missing or killed because of something their parents decided to do, or not do on that particular day. But they aren't in the press, or on media so we don't know about them, don't fight their corner, don't shout from the rooftops about them.

But we are ok. Because these are things that happen to other people, not us.

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 16/03/2019 23:18

Of course I’m never going to agree with people with the mindset you have where these people are concerned, Millie.

And disagreeing with someone is spoiling for a fight, we’re all adults here, you don’t have to take your ball in because someone doesn’t agree with you.

MadMillie · 16/03/2019 23:19

Nodic I wish I'd read it now. It's not something myself or any friends/relatives have done so I find it a very strange thing to do. It would never have crossed my mind to leave children alone tbh.

makemineapinacolada · 16/03/2019 23:19

Sorry what's all this about toothbrushes? Who is saying who shared one? I wouldn't but what's the insinuation here?

HerRoyalFattyness · 16/03/2019 23:20

ColeHawlins i never said it was.

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 16/03/2019 23:21

nokidshere were those your posts from the other thread?

No-one would dream of saying that James Bulgers mum should not have let go of a two yr old in a busy shopping centre, or that 5 yr old Sarah Payne should not have been out playing with her siblings in a field, or that the two little boys that Mary Bell killed should not, at 3 & 4 yrs old, been out playing on their estate, that Ben Needham shouldn't have been allowed out in his (grandmothers?) garden. And I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other cases that could be cited

Agree with them especially this one.

ColeHawlins · 16/03/2019 23:22

No-one would dream of saying that James Bulgers mum should not have let go of a two yr old in a busy shopping centre, or that 5 yr old Sarah Payne should not have been out playing with her siblings in a field, or that the two little boys that Mary Bell killed should not, at 3 & 4 yrs old, been out playing on their estate, that Ben Needham shouldn't have been allowed out in his (grandmothers?) garden. And I'm pretty sure there are plenty of other cases that could be cited.

Actually, I'm pretty sure all of those things have been said by large numbers of people, however quietly & tactfully or otherwise.

Remember there was a large spike in the sales of toddler reins after the Bulger case.

Of course hounding bereaved parents isn't kind or nice, but all these major cases are learning opportunities for society, too.

MadMillie · 16/03/2019 23:22

And disagreeing with someone is spoiling for a fight, we’re all adults here

Read back your posts 🙄 You threw your dummy out your pram a few posts back.

ColeHawlins · 16/03/2019 23:23

ColeHawlins i never said it was.

I'm just not sure the toothbrush thing is deserving of quite so much discussion.

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 16/03/2019 23:26

I really haven’t Millie, I just find your stance on this grating. But we’re all allowed an opinion I guess.

nokidshere · 16/03/2019 23:26

@ColeHawlins
Actually, I'm pretty sure all of those things have been said by large numbers of people, however quietly & tactfully or otherwise. Remember there was a large spike in the sales of toddler reins after the Bulger case. Of course hounding bereaved parents isn't kind or nice, but all these major cases are learning opportunities for society, too

Certainly not with the animosity, or as publicly, or for as long as this one though.

americandream · 16/03/2019 23:28

Sharing a toothbrush is disgusting and grim.

Can't believe people not only condone their children sharing one, but also sharing one with their partner. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww!