To ask if you would support a second referendum and what would you vote?

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As the title says really, along with whether or not your vote would be different from last time.

@mummymeister , I despise momentum with every breath in my body. And have said so on here on numerous occasions.
What question did you want me to answer?

There was no nasty or bitter language in my post. It is true. The lies and illegality of the leave campaign have been exposed. In not sure what you claim to object to so strongly in my post. More fake outrage from a leave voter.

@mummymeister The Labour Party are still behind a second vote (Corbyn stated it yesterday and Starmer again today), but not on today's amendment. The second vote needs to be on a specific deal, and Parliament needs to agree what that will entail. Added to that, a second vote needs an extension to A50 to be agreed, and that won't happen until next week.

This is still a long game, however frustrating it is for us (I'm a remainer too). If there's any chance of getting sufficient support in parliament for a second vote (there isn't at the moment), there needs to be some idea of what a vote would look like, and at the moment there is none.

@mummymeister Oh yes, you asked about the wall. I did answer, sweetie, I gave you an explanation of WTO rules as well as information about a hard border and then said the E.U. had admitted that eventually it needed one. Didn't you notice that or were you too busy assuming I was a Corbynite [shudders at the idea because he's a twat. Like I have said lots and lots on here]

"In the short term, in an emergency, you don't have to have anything in order to comply with WTO. Eventually there will need to be. As the E.U. have admitted."

Here you go @mummymeister . Save you the bother of looking for the response I gave to your question about who would "build the wall" as you so sweetly put it.

Yes I would support a second referendum- and would vote the same way, to remain!

The whole thing has gone beyond bonkers now

I'm not sure I would back a second referendum. It is so clearly a remainer project to undo brexit. Its a great idea if you didn't like the way the vote went, and a clear attempt to thwart an outcome you didn't like if you are a brexiteer. LIke in Scotland, all the separatists love the idea of a another referendum (and another and another till they get what they want) and all the unionists are seriously pissed off about the constant banging on about more referendums when they think the issue should been settled at the last vote.

I voted remain last time but I think I would abstain this time as I am so appalled at the attitude of remainers to brexiteers since the vote.

bellinisurge - who is going to build the wall in NI?

Tomtontom - the Labour party are playing politics way too much on this issue now. do they want a second vote? yes? then vote for it.

I am not outraged at all Mookatron - far from it. I am enjoying the mantra posts - "didn't know what we voted for" " I would vote remain again in a second referendum"

“Consequences” implies wrongdoing

No it doesn't.

bellinisurge literally I am laughing out loud at someone calling me "sweetie" . How patronising. How pathetic. jog on now back to the other thread. don't worry I wont mention you again or reply to any of your posts. just cannot take anyone who uses that sort of language seriously.

'I would vote remain again in a second referendum' isn't a mantra, love. It's a statement of intent.

And if you personally knew what you were voting for when you voted to leave the EU then you knew more than 100% of the country, because there was no plan or deal in place was there?

@mummymeister

I didn't vote for a mess

Yes you did, you have said repeatedly you knew what you voted for. You didn't say you knew what you wanted in your fantasy Brexit land, you said you knew what you voted for. You should have seen this shit show coming because plenty of other people did and told you what it would be like.

@mummymeister ok darling. I see no reason to be anything other than snide to some one who thinks I like Corbyn. Enjoy yourself.

@mummymeister

Is there anyone on here or in RL who voted to leave who wants a second referendum?

Me! I posted a while back. I'm still sceptical re the EU but have got to the point I don't think the price is worth it.

@time4chocolate
I am not ignoring it. And I agree with your concerns. If it happens and our country is not given a veto, that's when you have the referendum and leave the EU.

The idea of leaving because of the direction the EU may take in the future is taking a massive risk for something which may not happen. Plus, it is only after we triggered article 50 that we started talking about these issues. Turnout for European elections has been shockingly low in the UK and the first time we actually start talking about how the EU works as a nation is when we have already started the process of leaving.

If people are worried about EU overreach, they need to stop voting in UKIP MEPs who take their nice big salary and don't bother attending to debate or vote as an act of protest.

Don't like the fisheries policies? Maybe Farage should have actually turned up to the meetings and represented us like he was fucking paid to do.

If another vote was held under proper electoral law
with clear enforcement of campaign rules
with a clear margin needed for a definitive result
with a clear level of turnout required
and with proper explanation (like 485 pages) of the implications of each of the options
then I would support it

Otherwise I think the Government should revoke
and we should have Electoral Reform to prevent the extremes ruling the roost again.

No I don't support it, despite being a remainer.
We had a democratic vote and Leave won. Frankly the behaviour of the EU in the negotiations have really made me wonder why I voted remain, but I worry a heck of a lot about the Conservative party and whether they will revoke a lot of our rights if they don't have the EU to put the brakes on things.

TalkinPaece
100%

Yes- I support a second ref.

Second chance to vote after misleading statements from Leave campaign have been exposed (i.e £350m to NHS, Turkey's accession).

The spending irregularities from the Leave UK and allow investigation into any possible criminality (over spend & campaigning during agreed times of suspension) can be addressed

Allow people a chance to reflect on a decision now that more details and difficulties have been exposed (i.e. Ireland borders, Gibraltar)

That there is such a disagreement as to what Leave looks like and there is deadlock in parliament a peoples vote, depending on questions, will help bring clarity.

I respect that the outcome was Leave - but this outcome should be strong enough to be tested as the correct decision with the further information that we now have.

This is a simplistic view, but if we are autonomous then surely we can change out minds, isn't that democracy working?

I voted leave and if we had a second referendum I'd want to see 'Remain with the following changes' added.

I'd like to see foreign freeloaders turfed out (prob with the British ones too), control of our borders to stop the freeloaders coming, less contribution by the UK to the EU, powers to implement our own rules on certain things that pertain to British people only, NOT to have to ask permission from the EU.

Committed Remoaner here!

When I voted remain I felt like I didn't know enough about leaving the EU to vote leave. Also, I just could not bear the thought of siding with the likes of Farage, Johnson, Gove et al.

Last time I commented on a Brexit thread I was called 'monumentally dim' and 'smug' . I don't care what anyone thinks of me actually, and I'd rather be a dim and smug Remoaner, than utterly thick, racist and uncaring like most of the (thankfully very few) people I know who voted Brexit.

No because the only good result is remain

Anything else is a mess that we have to suffer through again with no better result

If the will of the people is still to leave the EU, then Leave will win a second referendum. What is there to fear from another referendum if you honestly believe that a majority of the British electorate wants to leave the EU? If you fear that Leave will lose you can't be convinced that most people want to leave!

Mostly people who comment on these threads are the remainers who support a second referendum, so it's not really a true reflection of how the general public feel.

For those who say the second (advisory) referendum wouldn't be democratic, is TM putting her deal for the third time in the House of Commons democratic?