To ask if you would support a second referendum and what would you vote?

[questabellatreetop]

As the title says really, along with whether or not your vote would be different from last time.

I'd like to say I'd vote for UKIP, without wanting to get shot down, UKIP as it was.

We need Brexit, so they'd get my vote.

There is your mate Nigel's Brexit Party. He left UKIP because it was too extreme . UKIP as is now gives a home to the EDL. Only fucking idiots and racist scum want to be with the EDL.

You only get Munsnetters posting on these threads though. The colleagues and family I've spoken to would never be MN users, so you're only seeing a certain demographic here. But then that's the case for any forum/newspaper readership/channel viewership. So how best to actually ascertain the views of the whole population without the whole echo chamber effect I wonder? 🤔

@bellinisurge

I said as it was, not as it is now.

But there is no, as it was. There is only, as it is.

Freedom to do something doesn't mean freedom from the consequences of your actions.

“Consequences” implies wrongdoing. All we have done is hold a referendum and legally voted for one of the options available. The majority of people within the UK voted and expressed a wish to change how we’re governed. Using the referendum result to suggest that we need punishing is fucking sinister.

I see there’s a campaign for Boris Johnson to be jailed for supporting Brexit and a Liberal Democrat MEP is calling for him to be ‘locked up’.

The speaker is no longer neutral and is openly partisan towards Remain.

One of my best friends growing up, her father ran to be President of a large and important African country but some people didn’t like the result so he was put in jail and the country’s legislative system did its best to pretend it never happened and kick over the traces.

I honestly didn’t believe something like that could happen here but it all feels very similar.

Her father eventually was beaten to death died of natural causes the day before he was released. I hope we as a country don’t go further down this road. But the vitriol and entitlement of Remainers - I think they’re going to send us that way.

Roomba a referendum with a binary question on the EU is going to be just as close again. so yes, have a second referendum.

and if the vote is to leave I guess all the remainers can come on here and say exactly the same as they are saying now - the mantra.

and if the vote is to remain then no doubt leavers will ask for best of 3 because after all it was only an indicative vote.

bellinisurge please read what Flobochin actually wrote rather than what you think was in their post. Or apologise.

Going back to Weetabix article on tax, this was a biggy for me and I have posted about it a couple of times over the last two years and every time it gets conveniently ignored.

A lot of people will repeat verbatim that taxes are and will always be sovereign and you hear a lot of 'don't worry because we have a veto'. Let's see how that works out for Ireland during the EU Tax Phase 1.

@mummymeister thank you

Voted remain before and would again

*Mr Blackford SNP now turns to the Labour Party, particularly their decision not to support today's amendment calling for a second referendum.

"A shiver has run along the front bench of the Labour Party looking for a spine to crawl up - and it hasn’t been able to find one," he says.
*

Looks like the Labour party don't want a second referendum either.

….still waiting for someone who voted Brexit to come on and say they support a second vote....

@mummymeister . Read it. Make no apologies for criticising someone for liking UKIP. They have appointed Tommy Robinson. Which makes them his natural home.

BejamNostalgia the suggested prosecution of Boris Johnson is for abusing his public office by publicly misrepresenting (i.e lying about) how much we send to the EU.

The time has ended for sloppy and vague claims such as 'prosecuted for supporting Brexit'. That kind of dishonesty by vagueness is what got us in this stinking mess in the first place.

I voted remain and would again. It's been nearly 2 years since the last vote and a lot has changed since then.

@mummymeister

I knew what I was voting for.

We I hope you are pleased with this shit show that you knew you were voting for. You voted to turn up into an international laughing stock and untold damage to the country, our children's future and the peace in NI. You should be ashamed of yourself and not proudly boasting that you knew what you for because this is it, this mess is what you voted for. Well done you.

One thing is becoming clear: No country can ever leave the E.U.

Yes, remain then, remain now.

We have a general election every few years and governments can change. You can't have one ill informed vote and then permanently wreck the country and take away the opportunities of the coming generations. It would be madness to go through with something so massive when people didn't realise what they were voting for. There weren't any terms other than false ones about having 350 extra million a week for the NHS.

I voted leave. I would vote remain this time without hesitation.

mummymeister the only reason leavers don't is because they're afraid they might not get their way again, now the lies and illegal campaigning has been exposed. If you think it's what the country wants, what have you got to lose?

Yes and would vote Yes again. This time I would hope they would open the vote to 17 year olds like they did in the Scottish referendum. After all, the repercussions of leaving or staying will affect younger people far more than the pensioners who so greatly influenced the outcome last time round.

They should have done a better job with the original referendum, given us the options on remain or leave with a further selection on what deal we would accept. They jumped in with the first referendum not expecting leave to win, they thought give them a vote to shut them up & created the chaos we are now in.

We can't keep having referendums until everyone is happy, it doesn't work that way.

I voted leave and would do so again.

phew at last. thanks for posting chimmychunga. the first one I have seen on this thread.

Mookatron - bitter, nasty language. I am not afraid of not getting my own way again. I don't agree with asking the same question over and over again until you get the answer you want. That is bullying.

another vote will be just as close, as I said, and will achieve nothing. either leave wins by a few percent and remainers still moan. Or remain wins by a few percent and it becomes best of three.

KennDodd - I expected politicians to do what we pay them for. they haven't. None of them whatever colour their rosette is. I didn't vote for a mess. I voted to leave the EU. it didn't have to be like this. Who do you think is going to build the wall in NI. Just asking since bellinisurge didn't/couldn't answer (clearly momentum likes to spread themselves across a number of threads)

"One thing is becoming clear: No country can ever leave the E.U."
Not correct. We have the GFA to consider and the Withdrawal Agreement addresses this. We could leave on 29 March if we accept it. Simples.