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How can anyone have an ounce of respect for Corbyn

249 replies

Sol44 · 13/03/2019 10:51

The man is a snake. We all know he’s a Brexiteer, so why not just come out and say it? This man has no principles - he’s purely concerned with getting into No 10 and there is no low he won’t sink to in order to get there. He’s spent years heckling from the sidelines, but it’s all smoke and mirrors to detract from the fact that he has nothing of any substance to offer on any area of policy-making, let alone the Brexit shambles. The man is an utter joke.

Surely his days are numbered now, as are TM’s and the all the other Brexiteers who put their careers in front of their principles?

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noblegiraffe · 13/03/2019 17:23

Similarly, can anyone defend Corbyn coming out the day of the referendum result and saying we needed to trigger Article 50 immediately? Then whipping his party to do so when it was put to a vote? Both calamitously stupid decisions.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 13/03/2019 17:25

Again seahorses I am not going to conflate anti-zionism with anti-semitism, how many times do i need to say it, I read it and listened to it and read Corbyns explanation, Im not coming to the same conclusion as you are and I think that says more about your own bias than mine, if he was anti-semite Id have nothing to do with him.

Out of interest seahorses are you saying that the Labour party is institutionally anti semitic or just Corbyn himself?

The state of Israel is not above criticism in regards to its treatment of the palestinian people, what would you say to Noam Chomsky a Jewish anti-zionist?

JustAnotherPoster00 · 13/03/2019 17:27

Remain platform with David Cameron.

Nick Clegg came out of it well didnt he?

Similarly, can anyone defend Corbyn coming out the day of the referendum result and saying we needed to trigger Article 50 immediately?

I put it down as a brain fart moment because it was a stupid thing for him to have done in my opinion

noblegiraffe · 13/03/2019 17:28

Corbyn himself said that Zionism was now used by anti-semites as a code word for Jews and he would be more careful with his language choice in future.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 13/03/2019 17:29

Chomsky actually denies there is any such thing as anti-Semitism. There clearly is.

As a Jew, Chomsky faced anti-semitism as a child, particularly from the Irish and German communities living in Philadelphia

noblegiraffe · 13/03/2019 17:30

Nick Clegg came out of it well didnt he?

Sharing a Remain platform with Cameron?

Or do you mean entering a coalition government with him, which is something entirely different.

noblegiraffe · 13/03/2019 17:31

I put it down as a brain fart moment because it was a stupid thing for him to have done in my opinion

If it was a brain fart moment, why did he whip his party to vote for it months later? It hadn’t got any more sensible in the meantime.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 13/03/2019 17:33

So Leadsom's racist comment isn't racist either. My bad. And the vast majority of Jewish people who say Corbyn is racist are wrong. My only bias is that racism is wrong no matter who it is who is being racist.

What would I say to Chomsky? Well I might ask him why he defends racist, anti-Semitic Holocaust deniers.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 13/03/2019 17:36

I think the non sharing of platforms was more to do with his base to be honest, how could he be so against Cameron if he was so willing to share a platform with him, is my guess if Im honest

Again as far as a50 is concerned I dont think he was right in doing that either, Just because I'm a fan f his doesnt mean I agree with everything he says

But giraffe how is it that Corbyn is non electable a danger for this country yet he's also the magic grandpa that can save us from the Brexit beast I dont quite understand how that works

noblegiraffe · 13/03/2019 17:42

also the magic grandpa that can save us from the Brexit

Well, he’s the leader of the opposition against the most dismal government in living memory, he should have been swept to victory in a general election by now. But he hasn’t. Because he’s shit.

Mistlewoeandwhine · 13/03/2019 17:44

Yes! Glad to see some lefties fighting the usual neoliberal crap churned out on here. 💪 😘

NameChangeNugget · 13/03/2019 17:45

I think he’s the best thing to ever happen to the Labour party

JustAnotherPoster00 · 13/03/2019 17:46

Opinion is not fact though giraffe Grin Hes definitely not everyones cup of tea but I will reiterate that the policies Labour were offering were much better for this country than the alternatives on offer in my opinion which is equally as shit depending on who you are I guess lol :)

noblegiraffe · 13/03/2019 17:56

The fact is that he hasn’t been swept into victory against the most dismal government in living memory. A government that has suffered humiliating and crushing defeats.

So he’s not very good at his job. Being electable is quite important.

Mistlewoeandwhine · 13/03/2019 17:59

Look at how aggressive the media have been towards Corbyn. Most people would have their lives improved under his actually mildly socialist ideology. Sadly a lot of people just believe what they are told by a media owned by multimillionaires.

BloggersNet · 13/03/2019 18:11

Nobody attacking labour policies. They're what this country desperately needs, now more than probably ever before.

ThatssomebadhatHarry · 13/03/2019 18:15

As apposed to all the other Politicians who have no interest in being PM. They are probably just their for Rhys-Moggs witty remarks.

Bore off.

noblegiraffe · 13/03/2019 18:47

Sadly a lot of people just believe what they are told by a media owned by multimillionaires

Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour plummeted in the opinion polls and didn’t really recover because of how he responded to the Skripal poisoning. Him saying we should send Russia samples of the novichok so that they could check and let us know if it was them that did it was key to people realising he’s an idiot.

If it’s the media’s fault he’s unpopular, he really shouldn’t help them along.

TheFirstRuleOfFightClub · 13/03/2019 19:18

coffeeismyspinach

He's nothing but a red Tory. Another spoilt rich misogynist twit who grew up in a mansion

Absolutely priceless, I love posters who come on here armed with lots of research! 😂😂 Have you seen his voting record?

dadshere · 13/03/2019 19:34

Seahorses, the claim that "Mowlam stood up in parliament and publicly castigated Corbyn for his behaviour which threatened the stability, safety and progress of the talks (source: Hansard)"

I can't find it.

littlebillie · 13/03/2019 19:38

Nope

Alltheprettyseahorses · 13/03/2019 19:50

dadshere It isn't a 'claim', it is there. In 1996 Mowlam stood up in the Commons to reprimand Corbyn's behaviour towards Adams and the Peace Process.

dadshere · 13/03/2019 20:19

Seahorses, yes you have said that several times now, but I would like to see the actual quote of what was said, evidence so to speak.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 13/03/2019 20:30

dadshere Look for it yourself if you're that bothered. If you can't find it on Hansard, just google the story. It's extremely easily found. If only you put as much effort into checking the rather exotic pro-Corbyn claims on this thread ...

wafflyversatile · 13/03/2019 20:35

How people can watch TM and the rest of the Tories destroy the NHS and see people going to food banks then slag off corbyn is what puzzles me.