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How can anyone have an ounce of respect for Corbyn

249 replies

Sol44 · 13/03/2019 10:51

The man is a snake. We all know he’s a Brexiteer, so why not just come out and say it? This man has no principles - he’s purely concerned with getting into No 10 and there is no low he won’t sink to in order to get there. He’s spent years heckling from the sidelines, but it’s all smoke and mirrors to detract from the fact that he has nothing of any substance to offer on any area of policy-making, let alone the Brexit shambles. The man is an utter joke.

Surely his days are numbered now, as are TM’s and the all the other Brexiteers who put their careers in front of their principles?

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WaxOnFeckOff · 13/03/2019 12:08

I really don't understand why people say they can't vote for the party they support because of the leader.

In principle I don't disagree with this, however, the leader in politics does dictate policy to a big degree and becasue he is weak, ineffectual and lazy, then he can't be trusted not to follow what certain factions want him to do or to deliver what they are supposed to either.

Somtamthai · 13/03/2019 12:09

TM is a Remainer!

He isn’t saying no brexit. He is saying we should leave with a good deal. Actually others have made similar points that I wanted to make. He actually sticks to his principals. Wether you agree or not he sticks to it.

I’ve been conservative since a child, but not now. Of course he wants to be in power that is the whole point :/. You cannot criticise him for that. Actually, I don’t think he is as bad as people think. His voting record is ok.

Mummyoflittledragon · 13/03/2019 12:28

I have very little respect for any of them.

Fazackerley · 13/03/2019 12:31

Nor do I tbh

Altough I admit I cringed with something like sympathy when I heard TMs voice after the vote last night. Poor woman (literally just because she's a woman really, I competely agree she's not been the best politician)

RabbityMcRabbit · 13/03/2019 12:33

Okay, it was an ex-wife so maybe had an axe to grind, but there is another point, how do we expect someone who can't make a relationship work, to build and maintain other important relationships?
What a daft argument! Going from this, no one who is divorced or has ever had a break-up should enter into politics? It takes 2 to make a relationship work.

icannotremember · 13/03/2019 12:35

The list of politicians I respect is very short these days.

Majorcomet · 13/03/2019 12:37

'I don't know how anyone can have much respect for anyone currently in British Politics. They're all spectacularly terrible, JC, TM, the whole shower of them.'

This
They are all only concerned with getting into number 10. Pathetic group of silly school boys who treat parliament like some kind of panto.

maartjebaabes · 13/03/2019 12:40

JC is one of the few politicians who you know just has the best interests of the country at heart.
The more difficult question, is which country's interests those are. Is it Venezuela, Iran or Russia? It's obviously not the UK, and he will always take sides against " the west" before thinking of a justification for that view.

Stalin called people like him "useful idiots". They were only half right.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 13/03/2019 12:41

Can all those that believe Corbyn is an anti semite can you post some links to that effect please, everytime I ask no one seems to have any proof of his own personal anti semitism

Jsmith99 · 13/03/2019 12:41

I’m a former Labour member and activist but I will never vote Labour while Corbyn is leader.

Under his leadership Labour has supported and enabled Brexit at every stage. He was invisible during the referendum campaign, he whipped his MPs to vote for Article 50 and he has consistently refused to campaign for a People’s Vote. He is worse than the ERG Tories, because at least they are honest about supporting a hard Brexit.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 13/03/2019 12:42

He was invisible during the referendum campaign

If he was active and it wasnt reported does that mean it didnt happen?

paddlingwhenIshouldbeworking · 13/03/2019 12:44

I think Corbyn is singled out right now because he has killed two party politics. There are several points at which he should have steeped aside, instead he has clung on and on. Corbyn shows no interest whatsoever in uniting the Labour Party. The Tories, in the meantime, are pretty much continuing totally unchecked. This is unforgivable.

Fatasfook · 13/03/2019 12:44

He’s not perfect but to say he has no principles is uneducated

Gilead · 13/03/2019 12:44

Do try and understand the difference between anti Semitism and anti Zionism.

SeaWitchly · 13/03/2019 12:47

YABVU

I like Corbyn and will be voting Labour at the next election.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 13/03/2019 12:47

The Tories, in the meantime, are pretty much continuing totally unchecked.

Are you unclear how the UK parliament works?

paddlingwhenIshouldbeworking · 13/03/2019 12:48

Yes. Very. Thanks.

chilledteacher · 13/03/2019 12:50

If Labour lose JC and replace with a credible leader they will get my vote. Principles that you founded in the 1970s and are sticking rigidly to are no good in modern politics. Time for him to go back to tending his courgettes on his allotment.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 13/03/2019 12:53

chilledteacher

Which policies did you disagree with in the last Labour manifesto?

coffeeismyspinach · 13/03/2019 12:53

He's nothing but a red Tory. Another spoilt rich misogynist twit who grew up in a mansion. No idea how he's still in power, he must have some dirt on a lot of people.

WanderingDaffodil · 13/03/2019 12:56

Corbyn did fuck all during the referendum campaign. He wasn't visible because he kept a very low profile. He talks about how he clocked up x billion miles but compared with other leading figures it was a pathetic stab.

My friends from the Labour movement who worked on the Stronger In campaign felt let down by his unreliability and betrayed by his failure to commit.

He didn't speak up for his party, all those thousands of members who joined because of him. He remained glued to his 1970s reading of the EU as a capitalist club. He chose, and chooses, to ignore all the great things done for workers' rights, a safer environment, sex discrimination and stable prosperity.

Corbyn is a disaster for the Labour Party.

Bagpuss5 · 13/03/2019 12:59

I think Corbyn is hanging on and on because he is credited with getting all the new votes at the last election, the new voters are assumed to be young people, this gave Labour more seats, nicked from the Tories.

But I'd be surprised if his anti austerity speech will carry the weight at the next election that it did then. Keir Starmer would make a great leader, intelligent, articulate, and will certainly give any new Tory leader a run for his/her money, if he is allowed to step into Corbyn's shoes.

hedgeharris · 13/03/2019 13:00

I loathe Corbyn but I'd have held my nose and voted for them until last night where he reneged on the people's vote commitment - I couldn't believe my ears. Yeah right, we've had 2 rubbish tory deals, now we should elect Corbyn and see what a deal labour can get? Ugh.

Hoppinggreen · 13/03/2019 13:01

I remember during the Novichok incident in Salisbury and Corbyn was being interviewed in the radio. He was criticising TMs handling of it and was asked what he would do. He said that he would sit down with Putin and challenge his record on Gay rights.
Typical Corbyn and his momentum cronies, being Woke is more important than, you know, a chemical weapons attack in our country.
Someone should point out to him that Socialism is a political stance not a virtue

Disclaimer- Obviously rights are important and Putins record is awful and should be challenged but it wasn’t the issue being discussed.

Fazackerley · 13/03/2019 13:07

He went away for a long weekend during the height of the pre referendum campaign didn't he?

Also I agree that Putin comment was beyond ridiculous