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Man sues clinic for performing abortion on his girlfriend without his consent

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amusedbush · 08/03/2019 13:07

metro.co.uk/2019/03/07/boy-19-sues-abortion-clinic-giving-ex-termination-wishes-8855393/

I don't even know what to say to this. I made the mistake of reading some of the comments about it on Facebook too.

Surely this can't stand up in court?

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Abdolly · 08/03/2019 16:08

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ILoveMaxiBondi · 08/03/2019 16:09

This is my new favourite phrase. I'm going to use it in future if you don't mind me stealing it.

I do not at all! Grin

MeAgainAgain · 08/03/2019 16:10

"If men wish to have control over their cells, they ought not to leave them inside other people."

Grade A expert level awesome!

Snuffalo · 08/03/2019 16:12

I am a total cunt who should in no way be allowed near a rational discussion about reproductive rights but I wish I could somehow have abortions AT the monsters who want to limit the right to a safe and legal abortion on demand. I would probably also include the drippy fuckers who talk about how it’s a difficult decision, how said it is, etc. It’s sad for people who have to abort a wanted pregnancy and for the deluded souls who are foolish enough attribute consciousness to an embryo.

AcrossthePond55 · 08/03/2019 16:13

I'll tell you one thing, in today's US if I had a daughter I would tell her that if she should find herself unhappily pregnant and wants to terminate, she shouldn't tell anyone, just do it. These are dangerous times for women here.

There are any number of conservative fringe groups who are looking to challenge laws on reproductive rights, gun control, civil rights, and equality laws. The way to do it is to file a lawsuit and have it rejected/denied up through the court system until they get to the Supreme Court. And to challenge those laws all they need is one patsy to file a lawsuit. And to get that patsy, they are touting the compensation and 'fame' they'll get. It's disgusting.

We already have any number of lawsuits working their way through the system, either from right wing groups wanting to restrict freedoms or from liberal groups challenging hard-right legislation that has been passed by States.

Gilead lives, indeed.

Gone4Good · 08/03/2019 16:13

I'm a little bothered as to why in the link they are calling him a 'boy'.

Soubriquet · 08/03/2019 16:14

And Thunder what if, between now and the time the child turns 18, the man turns round and says “you know what? Actually I don’t want to be a dad. It’s cramping my style. See ya. And don’t think you’re getting a penny out of me either”

What happens then?

ThunderStorms · 08/03/2019 16:16

1 If Margaret Atwood insists Hmm then in must me true Hmm

2 I am a feminist

ThunderStorms · 08/03/2019 16:16

It must be true. Stupid autocorrect.

Soubriquet · 08/03/2019 16:18

ThunderStorms

You are not a feminist. You seem to believe women do not have bodily autonomy. You are a forced birther.

ThunderStorms · 08/03/2019 16:18

She might have had an abortion, but from his standpoint, he lost a baby.

ThunderStorms · 08/03/2019 16:19

I am a feminist Smile

PregnantSea · 08/03/2019 16:19

I don't think he can do this, legally. I haven't seen any laws saying that he has a say in it. I think he probably just wants to kick up a media storm. Let's see what happens though because as others have said it will set a precedent

HomeMadeMadness · 08/03/2019 16:21

If men wish to have control over their cells, they ought not to leave them inside other people.

This is absolutely brilliant!

FizzyGreenWater · 08/03/2019 16:21

Them's the biological breaks.

Men get to walk away without a backward glance, because it's not their body and not their pregnancy. And they do! In their hundreds, after whining about condoms not being comfortable an' all that. Just waaaaalk away.

On the other hand... men don't get to choose what happens with said pregnancy - coz - you guessed it - it's not their body and not their pregnancy.

Women don't get to walk away, but on the other hand - they get to choose.

Foreverasking · 08/03/2019 16:21

@ThunderStorms
Guessing you are attention seeking on this post or just a moron?

They both didn't use contraception! They are teenagers, yes there are plenty of teenage parents that do an amazing job but it's hard work. It's difficult being an adult with a job and safe living conditions to be a parent let alone a 16year old girl and 17 year old boy.

My DH had this option taken away from him as a teenager when his ex had an abortion. He still fully supported her choice, even though it was against his beliefs and stood by her. He understood that he couldn't force or ask her to go ahead with it for his reasons.

It's her body! Her right to choose! I'm guessing you do not understanding what a woman actually puts her body through when pregnant. There are risks throughout pregnancy and giving birth is also a risk to both the mother and child. She shouldn't have to go through that just because they were both foolish teenagers. He couldn't surely expect her to carry the child full term and then just hand it over? What if something went wrong during the pregnancy or birth that affected her or the child? What if it affected her quality of life/ future health? Think of the effect on her mental well being.

Did this boy want to be a father? So therefore was it his plan not to use contraception?

I'm all for equal rights etc but if it does go to court it's ridiculous but then again a lot of Americans are! They did put Trump in charge after all.

ThunderStorms · 08/03/2019 16:22

I am pro abortion.

However, I certain situations where the woman does not want the baby and the man does, I believe we need to be able to have open (non hysterical Wink ) conversations about whether, in some circumstances, the man would be able to keep the baby and take sole responsibility, while the mother absolves herself of all responsibilities.

SaskiaRembrandt · 08/03/2019 16:23

ThunderStorms you're a feminist in the same way that I'm a small potato croquette. Hint: not at all.

ThunderStorms · 08/03/2019 16:23

If women want control over their cells, they should think before allowing someone to ejaculate inside them. It works both ways.

ThunderStorms · 08/03/2019 16:24

You are not able to comprehend someone with a different opinion to yours.

Soubriquet · 08/03/2019 16:24

How can you claim to be a feminist and still insist the girl has no rights over her own body?

It wasn’t a baby. It was barely a foetus out of zygote.

Her body, her health both physical and mental, her life is so much more important than this small bunch of cells who might not have survived anyway.

And so much more important than a mans hurt feelings

SaskiaRembrandt · 08/03/2019 16:26

However, I certain situations where the woman does not want the baby and the man does, I believe we need to be able to have open (non hysterical wink ) conversations about whether, in some circumstances, the man would be able to keep the baby and take sole responsibility, while the mother absolves herself of all responsibilities

Until there is a way of gestating babies outside the womb this is not going to happen. In the meantime, women as human beings have the right to bodily autonomy.

ThunderStorms · 08/03/2019 16:26

Losing a wanted baby is not the same as terminating an unwanted pregnancy, how can the two even be compared?

He lost a wanted baby.

pallisers · 08/03/2019 16:26

If women want control over their cells, they should think before allowing someone to ejaculate inside them. It works both ways.

Ejaculating inside a woman gives a man greater rights over her body than she has herself? Right then.

You really should read The Handmaid's Tale. I think you'd enjoy it a lot.

SaskiaRembrandt · 08/03/2019 16:26

You are not able to comprehend someone with a different opinion to yours.

I am, I just vehemently disagree with you. I'm allowed to do that too.