Man sues clinic for performing abortion on his girlfriend without his consent

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metro.co.uk/2019/03/07/boy-19-sues-abortion-clinic-giving-ex-termination-wishes-8855393/

I don't even know what to say to this. I made the mistake of reading some of the comments about it on Facebook too.

Surely this can't stand up in court?

Unless tissue was kept for DNA paternity testing, she could just say hey you weren't the father anyway. Not that she should have to. I'd countersue for emotional distress.

Abortion already is legal and his opinion is legally irrelevant so that's good.

It's 50% to do with him and going on about her body blah blah blah - what crap - well she should have thought about that before getting pregnant at 16 - she needs to realise that actions have consequences

His say ended when he did. He has no say in her body and what she does after the fact, in a civilized society anyway.
She is under no obligation to be his incubator. She is under no obligation to risk her body and life for a foetus
Yes for her the consequence to her action was needing to seek a medical procedure. Much like when someone catches an std.

Disgusted at some of these forced birther comments.

You think a decision to terminate a pregnancy should have the agreement of the man and the woman? Ideally, yes. Rape is obviously different.

So what is to happen if they can't agree? I hope that the ultimate decision would be the woman's?

But according to this thread, she’s a poor, poor sweet innocent girl and he’s a hateful evil man

She is, seeking abortion isn5 a bad thing.

Good men don't take a woman to court for seeking a medical procedure for their health and wellbeing.
Any man who does is an evil SOB, no sorry, that is NO man. That is a complete waste of oxygen

I am really hurt by the fact that the courts are treating the cell cluster as a living baby. If that is the case then any woman who suffers a miscarriage or still birth could technically be done for neglect and not providing a safe environment for the child.

He will be backed by Christian far right campaigners - they are busy over here too - fighting abortion, pro Brexit and anti-euthanasia.

I love being a woman and find it easy. I wonder why it’s all so difficult for you

Oh being a woman means we must breed, no matter what? Since when?

Whatever..... that is my worst nightmare. I'm worth more than just being breeding stock

You think a decision to terminate a pregnancy should have the agreement of the man and the woman? Ideally, yes.

Okay, Thunder, but as we don't live in an ideal world, what ought to happen if they don't agree?

“You think a decision to terminate a pregnancy should have the agreement of the man and the woman? Ideally, yes. Rape is obviously different”

How would this work? You realise that rapists generally don’t admit that they’re rapists? So, if a woman was raped, would you require her to prove that in court before she earned the right to abort? Or would you take her word for it?

If the former then the time it would take to do that, and the difficulties associated with securing a conviction for rape, would mean that you’d be requiring a good proportion of women who’ve become pregnant as a result of rape to continue that pregnancy to term. If the latter then I cast iron guarantee cases of reported rape would increase, women would lie - we don’t have to look far to see what desparate measures women will take to end a pregnancy they don’t want.

I love being a woman and find it easy. I wonder why it’s all so difficult for you

Oh being a woman means we must breed, no matter what? Since when?

Whatever..... that is my worst nightmare. I'm worth more than just being breeding stock

How on earth did you get that interpretation from the (carefully edited) quote from one of my posts?!

Ideally there should be agreement, yes.

But if there isn't, the woman gets to decide because she is the one taking all the physical risks and hardship. Because biology. Life isn't fair, suck it up, buttercup.

Both parents should have to give consent to kill the baby.
Think you're posting in the wrong thread, this thread is about abortion, not infanticide. HTH.

Abortion = infanticide, sadly. That’s why there are campaigns against it.

I would expect cobblers and silly bollocks to stop being spouted and for everyone to realise nobody nope not even the holy joes have a right to tell a woman what she can do with her own body because it belongs to her and her only so nobody else gets to tell her or has a right to tell her what to do with it

Oh god this thread is getting worse

An abortion of a 6 week old foetus is now being referred to as a murdered infant and she killed it because she’s a callous bitch and the poor father is distraught

Wtf

This happened 2 years ago!! There is no baby. All this theoretical wanting to stand by is null and void.

He can turn round and say I would have been there every step of the way no matter what....because he doesn’t actually need to back that up!

The baby does not exist. He does not need to prove his word

Abortion is never infanticide either

Infanticide is the murder of a living breathing body who has its own body and therefore ability to survive without the mother

Abortion is the removal of the foetus from the mothers body, where it would not survive without her

@Symposium123 You are ignorant. Infanticide is defined as the death of a born baby; a newborn or a toddler. An abortion is not 'killing' any more than having a period is killing a baby. It has no brainstem and no nervous system. It is not born. Therefore, it is not a baby. Therefore there is no 'killing' of a 'baby'. If you don't understand the difference between an actual INFANT, and an embryo or blastocyst, you have very serious issues.

Try doing some research instead of outright LYING, and using deceptive and emotionally manipulative wording.

How do you ascertain if someone was raped? Or if she was a victim of barebacking? A lot of women here say they wake up with their partners having sex with them. If the are coerced and controlled? Not only into sex,but unprotected sex too.

There are still men having sex with children that are excused because "she knew wha she wanted,she wated it". There are men tha get off with literally "I slipped and fell into her". There are men that murder women and get off because "she liked it rough ". There was a gang of 11 boys getting off a charge of rape because the girl "wanted it and she said yes". There are women who are unconscious,or don't have the capacity to consent tha end up pregnant in fucking care homes!!!

When men as a class stop using and abusing women and their bodies just because they can, maybe..MAYBE I'll stop to listen to what they want. And even then it will be the right to a opinion, not the right to decide.

@symposium123

Abortion = infanticide, sadly. That’s why there are campaigns against it.

Abortion = not infanticide. That’s why progressive societies have legalised it.

But you can always choose to live in a repressive regime so maybe you should consider that?

Well it's his baby too. If it were the other way round she'll still hunt him down for child support. It takes two to make a baby. She's just murdered his child so I can't blame him for his actions.

@Symposium123
"^Infanticide
/ɪnˈfantɪsʌɪd/Submit
noun
1.
the crime of a mother killing her child within a year of birth.
"cases of infanticide often involve extreme emotional disturbance"
2.
a person who kills an infant, especially their own child."^

@Whyisareallthenamestaken abortion isn't murder hth

Shitty little fucknuts is just after money. I bet he doesn’t give a shit about the abortion. I know things can be a little “Middle Ages” in the American South, but the contract for health services was between her & the clinic - he was not a party to it and I doubt they’ve broken any laws. As such it should hopefully cost him a bunch in legal fees.

Some real women haters on this thread. It always amazes me when people claim to care so deeply about human life and stop short of extending that consideration to adult females.