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Man sues clinic for performing abortion on his girlfriend without his consent

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amusedbush · 08/03/2019 13:07

metro.co.uk/2019/03/07/boy-19-sues-abortion-clinic-giving-ex-termination-wishes-8855393/

I don't even know what to say to this. I made the mistake of reading some of the comments about it on Facebook too.

Surely this can't stand up in court?

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cheesydoesit · 08/03/2019 18:20

Happy international women's day everyone!!!!

SchadenfreudePersonified · 08/03/2019 18:23

If women want control over their cells, they should think before allowing someone to ejaculate inside them. It works both ways.

What a stupid, specious argument.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 08/03/2019 18:27

What amount could he sue for? Surely the compensation would be negative, she has saved him 18 years worth of child support.

Good point! What money has he lost by not becoming a father?

Beansandcoffee · 08/03/2019 18:35

If we say a man has the right to make a woman Continue the pregnancy then we will have the situation when scientists and men/women will control our bodies. We will be moving towards the Handmaids tale. Anyone who hasn’t read this book should. You will certainly never say that a man should have control over a woman’s body.

I can’t make my partner have a vasectomy. I can ask him but he is perfectly within his rights to say no or yes as we believe that it is his body.

ThunderStorms · 08/03/2019 18:38

Forcing a woman to go through pregnancy and childbirth after rape and forcing a woman to go through pregnancy and childbirth after consensual sex still equals the same outcome.

No, because in the first scenario you didn’t choose to have sex, but in the second you did and you know that sex can mean pregnancy. Like you have said applies to the man.

legolimb · 08/03/2019 18:39

Back to the dark ages - men controlling women.

This is absolute nonsense.. As said upthread it's pretty convenient for the man/boy to be now making his complaint. He isn't going to be landed with a 2yo to care for for the next 16 + years.

Angry
ThunderStorms · 08/03/2019 18:41

If women want control over their cells, they should think before allowing someone to ejaculate inside them. It works both ways.

What a stupid, specious argument.

Just the flip side of the comment you have all been applauding... double standard yet again.

sendinallthesheep · 08/03/2019 18:44

No, because in the first scenario you didn’t choose to have sex, but in the second you did and you know that sex can mean pregnancy. Like you have said applies to the man.

So you really and truly believe a woman (or girl, a child herself in this case) should be forced to continue a pregnancy and give birth? Presumably locking her up somewhere to prevent her trying to end the pregnancy "illegally"?

Also, how are you proving the sex was consensual in these scenarios, if you think rape makes it different?

Jb291 · 08/03/2019 18:45

ThunderStorms are you just being deliberately obtuse or are you an apologist for this misogynist bullshit. Nobody gives a shit about your oppressive and woman hating opinions.

Men cannot become pregnant so are entitled to absolutely no say and no control over a woman's right to choose whether to continue a pregnancy or whether to terminate it. End of discussion.

pointythings · 08/03/2019 18:45

ThunderStorms forcing a woman to go through pregnancy is wrong no matter what the circumstances are. Men don't carry the babies, therefore the rules are different between men and women. You can't argue with biology.

Oh, and you keep saying you're a feminist...

Man sues clinic for performing abortion on his girlfriend without his consent
SchadenfreudePersonified · 08/03/2019 18:47

Perhaps if the man involved was prepared to have surgically inserted haemorrhoids, a huge belly implant of salty water that pressed constantly on the bladder and pushed up against the stomach, and varicose veins, as well as taking a violent emetic for a minimum of three months, and some constipation-inducing drug for the next six, prior to having his bollocks repeatedly sporadically crushed for the same number of hours/days that the baby's mother spent in labour - perhaps then he might have an argument for the pregnancy continuing . . .

JacquesHammer · 08/03/2019 18:47

Just the flip side of the comment you have all been applauding... double standard yet again

Except it really isn’t the flip side...

ILoveMaxiBondi · 08/03/2019 18:48

Just the flip side of the comment you have all been applauding... double standard yet again.

It’s really not the flip side. You don’t understand basic biology if you think it is.

UnspiritualHome · 08/03/2019 18:48

If women want control over their cells, they should think before allowing someone to ejaculate inside them. It works both ways

Why, when they can control them by having a termination or taking the MAP? OK, that option isn't open to men, but that's the fault of biology and can't be changed. It doesn't meant that they should be able to force women to continue pregnancies against their will.

burritofan · 08/03/2019 18:50

ThunderStorms, you seem obsessed with double standards as though men and women play exact and equal roles in creating babies, but they don't. Men simply have to spaff once. Even in a straightforward, low-risk pregnancy, women have to have their entire body change, suffer all manner of indignities, lose sleep, lose mental and physical energy, vomit, get constipated, spend money on new clothes and bras, go through labour, bleed and leak afterwards... there's already a biological double standard at play. Giving women our rightful bodily autonomy to choose whether to gestate or abort simply redresses that balance and levels the playing field.

In the words of Tupac, since a man can't make one / He has no right to tell a woman when and where to create one

AngelsSins · 08/03/2019 18:52

Rape is a totally different scenario

Tell us how that looks then? How is it proven as rape? You can’t use the court system because the baby would likely have be born by the time he’s found guilty anyway. So how would it work?

ThunderStorms · 08/03/2019 18:57

If I’m not a feminist 🙄, then maybe I’m glad as you all seem to have the worst pregnanacies ever. You seen to get all the worst symptoms 🙄.

I love being a woman and find it easy. I wonder why it’s all so difficult for you.

Ps I am a feminist Smile

burritofan · 08/03/2019 18:59

Yes it's definitely feminism that made me puke 24/7 til week 22, then bestowed haemorrhoids akin to bum testicles on me. That's 100% how feminism works, congratulations.

PS. I'm a fire hydrant. You know, if language no longer has meaning.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 08/03/2019 19:00

It’s really not the flip side. You don’t understand basic biology if you think it is.

Quite. Although to be fair, if they can confuse misogyny for feminism then I can imagine understanding biology might be a challenge.

JacquesHammer · 08/03/2019 19:01

I love being a woman and find it easy. I wonder why it’s all so difficult for you

I mean people make jokes about stupidity on the internet and I always think it’s an exaggeration...

Ps I am a feminist

MRA and feminism isn’t compatible

JacquesHammer · 08/03/2019 19:01

Have you Children Thunder?

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 08/03/2019 19:02

I love being a woman and find it easy. I wonder why it’s all so difficult for you.

Said like a true feminist - supportive and understanding of fellow women.

AngelsSins · 08/03/2019 19:06

ThunderStorms if you want to take away women’s rights by giving a man a say over her body, then you better have a damn good arguement for it, but you’ve completely failed to paint this world, to show us how it would be fair, what would happen in various situations, which proves you’ve given no more thought to it than the emotional idea that it’s “his baby too”.

If you would hand over a woman’s body like that, to give a man rights over her, to basically reduce her to a human incubator for men, then you’re no feminist. Does he also get a say over her life whilst she’s carrying the baby? Where she can travel? What she can eat? Where she can work? What medication she’s allowed? What sports she can play? Does he get to control her completely?

TedAndLola · 08/03/2019 19:07

12 pages in, why are women wasting thier time and energy on the misogynist troll? Ignore it. They thrive on attention.

CottonSock · 08/03/2019 19:07

Sounds awful for both sides really.

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