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Gossip that has gone very wrong

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ChorltonCreamery · 07/03/2019 14:19

One of my children is in an 'organisation' think church group, Scouts etc They are in a friendship group of about six or eight and the mothers are friendly enough, if some of them don't know each other they will have mutual friends etc.
One of the women 'A' is a real character, very funny and charismatic with very talented and charming children. When one of her children came to my child's birthday party I thought that her grandfather had brought her...it was their father. A is married to a man old enough to be her father. He has grandchildren who are older than his children with A.
At the weekend the mothers went out together for the first time but 'A' couldn't come. The conversation turned to 'A' and the relationship that she had with this man. At no point was it 'nasty' as such but comments were made about the age gap etc. One parent admitted that the family had not been invited to a gathering at a school friend's house because the husband had found it weird to have to talk to someone old enough to be his dad.
Well last night in front of some of the children 'A' confronted us! She had been briefed (I think by a woman at the next table to us who had lingered after her bill came). She completely demolished us intellectually, asking what had she done to provoke such a reaction and picked on us individually. Unforgivably she then asked a teenager whether her mother had brought her up to behave so despicably a manner and whether she thought it was appropriate to gossip behind people's backs. One of the group disappeared round a corner and was sick.
It was utterly hideous. I know I am guilty of joining in. I don't know what to do. One of the other children has told my child what happened. Only one of the group has responded to my text saying that she thinks that 'the circle' is at an end and the other person that she has spoken to has spent the morning in bed with a migraine.
I know I am to blame for joining in but I didn't initiate the gossip, but how would you react now. What is the way forward?

OP posts:
FishCanFly · 07/03/2019 15:04

bloody hell, how old are you lot? Very secondary school like behaviour

thegreatbeyond · 07/03/2019 15:04

My eldest child is old enough to be my youngest's Mum :)

Serialweightwatcher · 07/03/2019 15:04

Like others have said, it doesn't matter if you instigated it or not, the fact is this woman feels extremely hurt and so she should be - she hasn't done anything but fall for someone older and she hasn't hurt anyone so nobody is entitled to hurt her ... people think it's all right to judge and discuss people in their absence but invariably the comments get back to those concerned and are hurtful - do the right thing and apologise properly and beg her forgiveness - she's better than the lot of you by the sound of it

CluedoAddict · 07/03/2019 15:05

Good on her. You all so like a bunch of bitches.

floribunda18 · 07/03/2019 15:06

I think your group, and A all need to take a chill pill. Vomiting and migraines because someone had a go at you?

Individual, personal, thought out insults for everyone because someone was talking about how her husband is much older than her? It's just a fact that he is!

I'd have told her to stop overreacting and being rude when she bawled everyone out. It all sounds incredibly intense and that you'd all be better off not having anything to do with one another socially for a while.

Groovee · 07/03/2019 15:06

To be honest, the only way forward is a true apology! Whether or not A accepts that apology is her choice. It was a bitching session not gossip and it takes a lot to confront a group like that.

The over reactions of being confronted are being sick and with a migraine! You should all be thinking about your actions.

Bluntness100 · 07/03/2019 15:06

the delicate delights of Wethers Orginals

Actually made me laugh there 🤣

youwouldthink · 07/03/2019 15:07

Awful nasty behaviour from your group. Good on the person who told A. And good for A for calling you all out on it.
I hope A is on MN and sees the support for her!

LellowYedbetter · 07/03/2019 15:07

OP, you and your mates (and people like you) are the reason I don’t socialise. You all sound horrible and I’m glad she kicked off at you all. She sounds completely out of your league anyway to be fair.

Don’t apologise to her. Leave her alone and just stick to making friends with other people as nasty and pathetic as yourself.

MadameDD · 07/03/2019 15:08

I'd be beyond furious about this if I were the nice friend being gossiped about as it is none of anyone's business how big the age gap is.

Family friends of my parents - they had a good 20-25 year age gap and eventually moved to Spain to UK where they had a good life, one time my parents visited and said that when some 'locals' came by their big house and one of the locals got drunk etc he was saying derogatory words about their relationship in Spanish - luckily the wife didn't speak good Spanish then or was out of earshot, but still, very bad manners.

You should certainly apologise. If I were the nice friend I'd be struggling whether or not to speak to you again after this to be honest.

Grace212 · 07/03/2019 15:08

she sounds like a great woman

in terms of "way forward" - I don't know. I find it utterly batshit that someone couldn't cope with talking to another father who was older....I mean, if there are people in this group who are really so thick and judgemental and....I don't know....closed minded isn't even the right word because who the hell cares about an age gap......well, the woman is certainly better off not socialising with them.

I suppose they might have learned something but I don't know, if people are so bizarrely prejudiced initially, can they change?

so weird.

Echobelly · 07/03/2019 15:09

You obviously admire A, I might send her a card or something saying what you said about her, that she was quite right for taking you all to task and you're extremely sorry you didn't walk away from a conversation that was hurtful to her.

I get how you feel, there's nothing worse than feeling judged for one thing you feel is out of character - in a stupid moment of thoughtlessness I once did something really inconsiderate and even though I didn't know the people I upset, I was haunted for weeks by guilt and misery that these people would think I was an l awful, selfish person. I considered sending them a card/flowers apologising (I knew where they lived) but decided not to prolong the whole indecent as I didn't know them and tbh none of us would recognise one again in all likelihood. But as this is someone you know and like, may be worth rebuilding bridges

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 07/03/2019 15:09

Me too Bluntness

Seriously, just leave it. She's far better off out of it, and no it wasn't unforgiveable what she said to that teen. You lot were the unforgiveable ones. And the guy that didn't want to invite the older dad because of the age gap..... he sounds like a giant arse who needs to give is head a wobble.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 07/03/2019 15:09

Good on A for giving you all down the banks. Although its not nice is it, op.
Bit long in the tooth to be acting like gossipy 14 year olds arent you.

NewYoiker · 07/03/2019 15:10

You feel bad for what you did. Man up and apologise

MadameDD · 07/03/2019 15:11

oh and the person who got a migraine over this really needs to get a grip getting a migraine over this - how pathetic.

My other comment on this (comes from having attended a convent) is that church type groups like this tend to be the absolute worst for spreading harmful and harmless gossip and blowing things up out of all proportion.

floribunda18 · 07/03/2019 15:11

I think people here are overreacting someone too. We don't know what was said, but the OP said it wasn't anything nasty or bitchy. Don't you ever talk about other people not present? It's not ok to bitch or gossip about personal problems of friends but it is ok to actually discuss other people!

floribunda18 · 07/03/2019 15:12

somewhat

TheInvestigator · 07/03/2019 15:12

NewYoiker,
She doesn't feel bad for what she did. She feel a bad that they got caught and got a telling off.

MistressDeeCee · 07/03/2019 15:12

I like the sound of A. Love the way she stood up for her family, and confronted a group of gossips who'd pretended to be her friends.

I'd have done exactly the same as her.

In your shoes I'd have got up from the table. I wouldn't be part of a group gossiping about someone's personal life, very likely because they are jealous of her and her lifestyle

As for the friend's husband who couldn't be in the presence of an older man- he's an ageist, judgemental idiot. I bet he was spurred on by his nosey and envious wife talking in derogatory fashion about this man.

The best thing for you to do now is apologise. If you think that gossiping was wrong that is. If not then don't apologise.. either way it makes no difference really, friendship between this woman and your group is dead in the water. Understandably.

Thisisnotadrill · 07/03/2019 15:12

This is why I don’t go to church.

Omzlas · 07/03/2019 15:12

You all sound like a bunch of teenage girls - a migraine and vomiting over being called out on being massive bitches? good

Start with a sincere apology and go from there

And fucking good on her for standing up to you lot of witches

RedHatsDoNotSuitMe · 07/03/2019 15:12

I don't think the OP will be back as she's been given such a roasting on here. But on the off-chance she's still reading:

ChorltonCreamery I think you should send her a card from you apologising for your part in the bitching and suggest that the entire group clubs together and sends her some flowers.

It probably has altered the friendship group permanently, but I would hope for the sake of all the children (particularly hers) that at least they can continue to be friends. And I would emphasise that point in the card you send her.

burritofan · 07/03/2019 15:13

Is the group the Harper Valley PTA?

There is no way forward, I'm afraid. A has discovered you're all shallow, mean people. Live with it.

SilverySurfer · 07/03/2019 15:14

Just reading the OP again, I am wondering how much self control was used not to add an exclamation mark or several at the end of each sentence of the following, indicating her horror:

When one of her children came to my child's birthday party I thought that her grandfather had brought her...it was their father. A is married to a man old enough to be her father. He has grandchildren who are older than his children with A.

I'm also surprised we haven't had massive drip feeds yet - hopefully OP is feeling some shame and regret.

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