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Gossip that has gone very wrong

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ChorltonCreamery · 07/03/2019 14:19

One of my children is in an 'organisation' think church group, Scouts etc They are in a friendship group of about six or eight and the mothers are friendly enough, if some of them don't know each other they will have mutual friends etc.
One of the women 'A' is a real character, very funny and charismatic with very talented and charming children. When one of her children came to my child's birthday party I thought that her grandfather had brought her...it was their father. A is married to a man old enough to be her father. He has grandchildren who are older than his children with A.
At the weekend the mothers went out together for the first time but 'A' couldn't come. The conversation turned to 'A' and the relationship that she had with this man. At no point was it 'nasty' as such but comments were made about the age gap etc. One parent admitted that the family had not been invited to a gathering at a school friend's house because the husband had found it weird to have to talk to someone old enough to be his dad.
Well last night in front of some of the children 'A' confronted us! She had been briefed (I think by a woman at the next table to us who had lingered after her bill came). She completely demolished us intellectually, asking what had she done to provoke such a reaction and picked on us individually. Unforgivably she then asked a teenager whether her mother had brought her up to behave so despicably a manner and whether she thought it was appropriate to gossip behind people's backs. One of the group disappeared round a corner and was sick.
It was utterly hideous. I know I am guilty of joining in. I don't know what to do. One of the other children has told my child what happened. Only one of the group has responded to my text saying that she thinks that 'the circle' is at an end and the other person that she has spoken to has spent the morning in bed with a migraine.
I know I am to blame for joining in but I didn't initiate the gossip, but how would you react now. What is the way forward?

OP posts:
cheesemongery · 09/03/2019 06:33

You're all a bunch of over dramatic childish gossipy twats. Vomiting and migraines - seriously?

You should feel bad.

A has done nothing wrong.

Loolol64 · 09/03/2019 07:24

Well I am Team A. How would any of you have felt being judged behind your backs? And as for the husband who didn't want to speak to an older man ... is he still a teenager? What a bunch of hideous and drama queen women you are. As for the reactions ... nausea and a migraine ... pathetic. If I were A, I would never interact with any of you again. I am so glad that woman who heard you all told A. Perhaps it will teach you all a lesson, but I doubt it. I don't think you have the intellect.

candlefloozy · 09/03/2019 07:30

My friend was with someone 20 years older than us. Yes it was strange when we were early 20s but we got on with it. I think you've all acted really childish and I think you need to say a big sorry to her!!!

Loolol64 · 09/03/2019 07:30

@cheesemongery: I bloody love you!

Dillydallyalltheway · 09/03/2019 08:02

Gosh you all sound neurotic. Vomiting and migraines because some woman gave you all a justified ticking off? It's like a victorian melodrama

I couldn’t agree more with this statement. I feel really awful for A. She must be feeling awful. I don’t think an apology is going to cut it with her. I also doubt that she will be able to talk about it with her husband as she will probably not want to upset him.

FaveNumberIs2 · 09/03/2019 08:26

Basically, you are a tit.

And so are all the others in the group.

HOW DARE YOU AND YOUR SO CALLED FRIENDS DISCOUNT THIS COUPLE BASED ON NOTHING MORE THAN THE HUSBAND'S AGE?

It's rude and totally uncalled for and you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

You are teaching your children that an age gap is wrong, that certain looks are wrong, that relationships should be based on matching ages and looks rather than a loving partnership.

You all need to apologise to them both, but don't be surprised if they tell you to shove it up your ass.

PinkPanther27 · 09/03/2019 09:00

So you were talking about A and her husband and the age gap when she wasn't there and how they had been alienated and excluded from another social event cos some manchild didn't feel comfortable socialising with grown men, but that's not gossiping?
I was thinking well done A when I read about how she confronted you all. You mention grown women being sick and being in bed with migraines yet not once talk about how A must be feeling and how difficult it must have been for her to confront you all. You also seem to be blaming her for the grown womens nausea and migraines- have you considered that it may be caused by their own shame and embarassment? It does seem a bizarre response, A has clearly hit a nerve with them. Maybe noone's pulled them up on their behaviour before.
Stop blaming A and stop to consider how awful she's probably feeling being talked about and judged behind her back and losing a group of people she'd considered to be friends.

jojackdaw · 09/03/2019 09:02

It reads to me as if you know you were in the wrong to be part of the gossip even if you didn't initiate it and an apology is owed to this woman. As for the couple who didn't invite them to a social gathering because husband thought it would be weird - I think that's weird! People are interesting at all ages. Why exclude someone because they're older? Very odd. I imagine this woman was very hurt to be told about the group discussing her husband in such disparaging terms and has been very brave in standing up for him and her marriage. Whoever reported the gossip to her probably did it in salacious terms as well and didn't spare her any of the details! So. I'd apologise. Simply because it's the right thing to do. She may be hostile or gracious or somewhere in between but that's her choice.

TheKingsofCleon · 09/03/2019 09:46

Whole thing smacks of jealousy.
A is well shot of the lot of you cows.
I hope she told you a few home truths about your husbands too.

Reminds me of this.

michaelT1 · 09/03/2019 09:51

Say sorry,mean it and learn from it !

SparkiePolastri · 09/03/2019 09:53

This thread has taken a turn for the hysterical. CAPS LOCK has been broken out.

danceyourselfsilly · 09/03/2019 09:59

So many good messages on here. I reiterate all of them - poor A! I agree about the terrible example you are showing your kids I despair! Kings of Cleon - I absolutely love that Thankyou for reminding me about it. What was the other song about the mum who died who had fed her family by having to turn to prostitution who was castigates by the whole community? I’m sure someone will remember

Hoplittlebunnies · 09/03/2019 10:46

You've all behaved awfully. A hasn't. She has probably had to put up with theee sorts of comments for years and is hurt that she is now having to put up with it from so-called friends.

My DH is only 6 years older than me but I have several close friends who went to school with my parents, so I do not understand the logic of not inviting people because its weire talking to people the same age as your dad. Its juvenile. One of these friends of mine is someone I could probably see myself being interested in romantically if I wasn't married to be honest and sounds like he would be a much better pick than you are your "circle of friends". Better make sure you don't miss any social gatherings OP, you'll never find out what they're saying behind your back.

TheKingsofCleon · 09/03/2019 10:47

Not sure I've heard that one @danceyourselfsilly. I've found the movie on youtube to watch. Good old fashioned comedy.

Personally I was never involved in the PTA groups/church/school gate moms etc. I was a younger Mum than most of them, so didn't really fall into the golden circle criteria.
The circle has broken had me stitched up though! Grin
I generally avoid groups of women. I find them insufferably bitchy.

I also have a thing for older men Wink
The older the fiddle, the sweeter the tune!

Vulpine · 09/03/2019 10:57

'Over dramatic and childish' - kinda describes half of the posts on this thread. Name calling is pretty unpleasant.

Echobelly · 09/03/2019 11:07

I do think people are being a bit on their high horses at OP. I imagine most of us have been present at such conversations and not walked away, even if we haven't actively taken part, it's just that in this case it was found out and we might be left feeling ashamed like the OP in the same position, and it's a horrible feeling.

TheKingsofCleon · 09/03/2019 11:12

Well the OP shouldn't have been having a laugh at A's expense then.
It's pure unadulterated jealousy.

TheKingsofCleon · 09/03/2019 11:15

It honestly never fails to amaze me how utterly contemptuously bitchy women can be.

She's probably a very attractive woman. He's probably a charismatic, charming older man. That's why they're bitching.
And now she's bitching because she was caught bitching.
That's not friendship
That's cunthookery.

HarrySnotter · 09/03/2019 11:18

That's not friendship
That's cunthookery.

100% agree.

EmbarrassingStoryteller · 09/03/2019 11:32

@Echobelly From the way the OP described the older husband in her first first post, implied to me that she was as critical as the others, so no I haven't been in a bitchy situation like that before, as I wouldn't judge someone so harshly for having an older husband, and I'm clearly not alone on here.

WhoWasIt · 09/03/2019 11:42

Vomiting, migraines? You must all have low self esteems if you find sitting and being nasty about someone makes you feel better about yourselves.
As for being unforgivable to have a go at the teen, no, it's quite forgivable.
You all need to grow the Hell up and apologise.

I've always found church goers to be some of the biggest hypocrites around. A point you have just proven.

Ellyess · 09/03/2019 11:43

Belenus

You are weird.
If you mean because I too get migraines I must be the same person mentioned by the OP, you are crazy. And wrong.

1 in 7 of the UK population of whom more than half those who have it are women, suffer from migraines.

Stop inventing ridiculous lies.

StillCoughingandLaughing · 09/03/2019 11:57

She's probably a very attractive woman. He's probably a charismatic, charming older man. That's why they're bitching.

Exactly. She’s brighter than they are, funnier, more attractive; the children are great... they’re desperate to find a flaw. And then they think ‘Bingo! The husband is old. Not even a bit older; GRANDCHILDREN old!’

There was only one problem. A doesn’t think it’s a flaw. She’s not only happy with him, she’s proud of him; proud enough to take a gang of bitching ‘friends’ to task when they get their claws out about him. And now OP and her coven are eating their hearts out.

TheKingsofCleon · 09/03/2019 11:58

Guilt will induce stress which will induce migraines and vomiting.
Guilt oozing from the OP.
She might need some smelling salts herself.
Her maybe turn Catholic and go to confession.

The OP was nasty with her coven/circle of witches/bitches.

A, is a strong woman who socked it to you lot. You deserved it. I just hope that she hit where it hurts.

TheKingsofCleon · 09/03/2019 12:01

And I agree with the poster who said that annihilating you intellectually probably wasn't that difficult. Oh God, I can't think of anything worse than being out with a bunch of PTA/churchgoing women. The thought itself makes my skin crawl. Sad bastards.