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Gossip that has gone very wrong

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ChorltonCreamery · 07/03/2019 14:19

One of my children is in an 'organisation' think church group, Scouts etc They are in a friendship group of about six or eight and the mothers are friendly enough, if some of them don't know each other they will have mutual friends etc.
One of the women 'A' is a real character, very funny and charismatic with very talented and charming children. When one of her children came to my child's birthday party I thought that her grandfather had brought her...it was their father. A is married to a man old enough to be her father. He has grandchildren who are older than his children with A.
At the weekend the mothers went out together for the first time but 'A' couldn't come. The conversation turned to 'A' and the relationship that she had with this man. At no point was it 'nasty' as such but comments were made about the age gap etc. One parent admitted that the family had not been invited to a gathering at a school friend's house because the husband had found it weird to have to talk to someone old enough to be his dad.
Well last night in front of some of the children 'A' confronted us! She had been briefed (I think by a woman at the next table to us who had lingered after her bill came). She completely demolished us intellectually, asking what had she done to provoke such a reaction and picked on us individually. Unforgivably she then asked a teenager whether her mother had brought her up to behave so despicably a manner and whether she thought it was appropriate to gossip behind people's backs. One of the group disappeared round a corner and was sick.
It was utterly hideous. I know I am guilty of joining in. I don't know what to do. One of the other children has told my child what happened. Only one of the group has responded to my text saying that she thinks that 'the circle' is at an end and the other person that she has spoken to has spent the morning in bed with a migraine.
I know I am to blame for joining in but I didn't initiate the gossip, but how would you react now. What is the way forward?

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YourSarcasmIsDripping · 08/03/2019 21:36

Because people talk either to their children or when they think their children don't listen.

If we put It in direct speech A said to the teen :

"Did your mother brought you up to behave so despicably a manner ? Do you think it is appropriate to gossip behind people's backs?"

It's a very random comment to make to someone(and single them out ) that is not directly involved.
Experience tells me it's very likely indeed.

Ofc others might believe that it was indeed the random woman and that A picked a teenager at random to make a random mean comment to. I just find unlikely and it doesn't make much sense.

I've had kids find out about their true parentage from other kids in the playground and plenty of other things.

YourSarcasmIsDripping · 08/03/2019 21:38

Well last night in front of some of the children

There were other children there, why that one in particular?

DoraTheExplorer3 · 08/03/2019 21:50

If I'd happen to overhear people gossiping about someone I know, I would keep it to myself unless it was something really malicious. Running to the person who has been gossiped about, is just shit stirring and will hurt this person's feelings.

That is true. The shit stirrer is the most non-friend of A in this story..

However I do admit I would find it difficult to see my friend trust in some people who slag her off behind her back.. but still it’s hurtful to relay that..

But A is still innocent. She had the info reach her... she probably should’ve asked for clarification but then again why would she want to hear them admit to all the details mentioned which might hurt her further.

The bitchiness and shit stirring are both equally wrong, shit stirring probably more wrong in hind sight as it’s difficult to reverse... but I can understand the friend who Felt the need.

BingLiveisRubbish · 08/03/2019 21:53

The Circle Hmm

StillCoughingandLaughing · 08/03/2019 21:55

Above I missed a point about the gossipy cow on the next table. She's the shit stirrer and the one who isn't the friend of A! She's just a slimy piece of muck-raking arse-licking point-scoring by dropping you in the shit trouble-making bitch that needs calling out in this. How well did she convey the exact truth to friend A? Lavishings of extra helpings of how mean you were and nastiness I bet! Also A isn't quite the poor little victim I first imagined! To say that to a teenager! WtF had the teenager done? No!

I’ve noticed a rather pathetic trend on his thread towards blaming the woman who repeated the comments. If OP and her trashy friends hadn’t made the comments in the first place, she wouldn’t have repeated them. Or to borrow the parlance of this thread, you can’t be a ‘shit-stirrer’ if there is no shit to stir. The OP and her friends all cooked up a massive shit stew, and are now panicking because someone got hold of the spoon.

As for the posters gasping for smelling salts because a teenager was present for this , since when have teenagers been crafted from Dresden china? If any group of people needed to learn the value of not spreading malicious gossip, it’s teenagers .

LaBelleSauvage · 08/03/2019 22:18

You're minimising your part in this. The gossip obviously was nasty and all this stuff about it being observational sounds like a load of crap.

It's also pathetic you victim blaming because she said something (perfectly reasonable) to a teenager in the heat of the moment. And dear god the vomiting and migraine? Hmm

You should apologise but it seems pretty insincere since you clearly think you've been wronged and she's over reacting. You sound like a nasty piece of work and I hope you try not to be in the future.

LondonJax · 08/03/2019 22:33

Do you know, the more I read this thread, the more I've come to decide the group really are wimps.

One person throws up and another (or the same person) gets a migraine. I still maintain that was the person who told A about the conversation. I simply can't believe the coincidence of someone sitting, alone, at the next table happening to overhear a conversation about a mutual friend. They had to be sitting alone or not talking for the whole of the OP's conversation to be able to take in that 'A' was someone they knew. Unless you live in a tiny village the odds of that happening are minute! I still believe someone in that group told 'A' for whatever reason, A has lost it and the person who told is now panicking about what will happen when it comes out that it was them - hence the sickness and/or the migraine.

And, to compound it, 'A' has a go at a teenager in front of his/her mother and the mother doesn't step in? Seriously? Because whether I'd upset A or not, no one would bring my child into the argument like that and survive a tongue lashing back. What did you do? All stand around like guilty little girls? Not one of you told her to back off, to calm down (personally I think she was justified but that's not the point - it's your collective reaction that I find odd). Who stands there, with their children present, and takes an individual telling off? You can't all have the same personality. There must be one of you who would bite back or walk off as soon as 'A' started to speak or step in to diffuse it. But no, every one of you seems to have stood there to take the dressing down like little kids. Really? I think there's something very fishy about that reaction.

But I must also agree with an early poster - the one thing I'd be worried about now is what that group was saying behind my back. Because if 'A' and her DH had their relationship 'dissected' I'd be wondering what the 'circle' were saying about me...

choli · 08/03/2019 22:37

If believe the bible Joseph was old enough to be Mary’s dad btw!

Where in the bible is Joseph's age mentioned?

EmbarrassingStoryteller · 08/03/2019 22:49

I can't imagine ANY parent I know (friend or acquaintance) at my DCs school excluding another child from a gathering because the host dad didn't like the idea of (potentially) having to make small talk (for a very short period of time I'd imagine) with another dad who happened to be much older than him!!

You all sound awful. I'm thinking that this 'charismatic' friend A is probably just a normal, reasonable person, but because the rest of you are not too bright and nasty with it, she seems more charismatic than the rest of you.

I hope you're all in the minority at this school, and that friend A can now find a rather more sophisticated bunch to hang around with, that are a bit more deserving of her friendship.

LaBelleSauvage · 08/03/2019 22:52

Does anyone else think Floribunda might be the woman who vomited round the corner???

scissorsandpen · 08/03/2019 22:58

Seeing as OP hasn’t come back I think this thread is completely fabricated!

MountIronSolo01 · 08/03/2019 23:11

I don’t think I’d come back on here seeing as how the majority of feedback is scathing. I bet there’s a lot of hypocrites. There’s no shortage of people out there who love ripping into someone from behind their cloak of anonymity.

scissorsandpen · 08/03/2019 23:18

I know what you people can be mean. But I don’t believe a group of woman having been confronted one vomited round the corner and one had a migraine and nor the circle has ended ? Doesn’t ring true to me

scissorsandpen · 08/03/2019 23:25

Know what you mean that people can be mean oh dear

Catsinthecupboard · 08/03/2019 23:37

We moved bc of untrue gossip. Dd was shunned by her friends. We couldn't have stayed, dh was offered a job and we left.

Many years later, the suspected primary gossip (neighbor) was widowed and alone. She called me crying one night bc she was alone and sick in a home. Friendless.

I felt badly for her in spite of my suspicions(rumors were at school and she was a gossipy teacher) and listened to her every night through the holidays. I suspected that occasionally she was fishing for information but i couldn't stand to let an old woman cry alone so i listened.

Eventually, she made up with her friends. She turned on me and i dropped her without a bit of guilt.

She is a selfish human who cared for only herself and used my life as entertainment. I have decided that it really was her that began the rumors and as our dd was sadly harmed by an old woman's need for malice and attention, i'm feel guilty but i think she deserves her life.

Rumors and gossip really do hurt others and I've never understood why it was worth it.

BlondeBumshelll · 09/03/2019 00:14

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!!

Don't bitch about someone (which is exactly what you all were doing, regardless of how you dress it up) if you can't take their response. Throwing up and having a migraine is a ridiculous response to being caught out bitching. Jesus.

TakeNoSHt · 09/03/2019 00:22

Very insensitive immature behaviour.
There are cetain rules in life
1-don’t put anything you think you might regret in writing (ever think person may be reading this?)
2-don’t talk publically about people, you never know who is listening or who might tell the person in question
And
3-Bitchiness is not a quality worth having, if you can’t say it to their face then don’t say it

PutsFootInIt · 09/03/2019 01:02

Is this real? It sounds like a scene from Motherland.

I thought everyone gossiped?

People who are outraged on here must not get out much. What was said doesn't really sound that bad tbh. Although, not wanting to socialise with someone older is very odd.

ToffeeCake1 · 09/03/2019 01:55

So you’ve been called out for inching behind A’s back (good on A!) and then you find it appropriate to describe her husband like that on here?? Did you not learn when you were originally called out? I think you and the other pathetic members of your ‘clique’ need to get a bloody grip on life, give A a huge apology, accept the fact that she probably doesn’t want to associate herself with ridiculous women who throw up for no reason and then grow the hell up!

ToffeeCake1 · 09/03/2019 02:13

Ellyess
I find it funny you keep ranting about how people are assuming various things yet you keep pointing out how you assume that whoever told A made the group seem nastier than they were...Hmm

phpolly · 09/03/2019 02:46

This is a reverse, everyone....

floribunda18 · 09/03/2019 04:54

You're minimising your part in this. The gossip obviously was nasty and all this stuff about it being observational sounds like a load of crap.

You should apologise but it seems pretty insincere since you clearly think you've been wronged and she's over reacting. You sound like a nasty piece of work and I hope you try not to be in the future.

Does anyone else think Floribunda might be the woman who vomited round the corner???

You come across as a nasty piece of work and I hope you try not to be in future. The lack of self-awareness and hypocrisy by numerous posters on this thread is incredible. I am giving them enough credit that it isn't just outright stupidity.

sophe · 09/03/2019 05:34

Write her a letter telling her how appalling her conduct was and that whatever wrong she thinks was done to her cannot justify such an appalling nastiness that even dragged in children.

Tell her people talk. She must be used to that. So what? Ask her what she thinks her tale telling 'friend' was up to?

Time to get back onto the front foot here.

mathanxiety · 09/03/2019 06:25

Do no such thing. ^^

You need to apologise unconditionally.

Nobody deserves what your group did to this woman and her husband.

Tell her people talk. She must be used to that. So what?
Holy crap.

Decormad38 · 09/03/2019 06:31

....and you are all churchgoers it seems. No wonder Im an atheist!