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AIBU to ask if you changed your opinion about Brexit

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Flyingfish2019 · 06/03/2019 22:26

We had a lot of Brexit threads but I think not about this topic. As somebody who does not live in Britain I wonder if you changed your opinion about Brexit now that you heard that a hard Brexit is most likely. Would you vote different if there was a second vote?

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KidLorneRoll · 08/03/2019 15:51

"Not being able to leave the EU fills me with dread."

Why though? Looking forward to the UK's economy nose diving, are we?

1tisILeClerc · 08/03/2019 16:07

The UK is leaving (hurrah!). The WA is only a routemap to leaving, basically a list of all the things that need negotiating, not any agreement in itself.
29 March is the START of negotiations, so if the UK 'crashes out' it will involve about a year or two of messy negotiations to disentangle the UK from the EU.
If the WA is signed the negotiations will take a couple of years at least but the good news is that people don't need to starve or worry about critical medicines.
Any way around much of industry, both manufacturing and financial is buggered.
Well done 'leavers', be happy in what you have done.

FangsTasticBeast · 08/03/2019 16:11

When it all goes tits up leavers will just blame the EU . Why they thought the EU would give them everything they asked for I don’t know

KidLorneRoll · 08/03/2019 16:49

Because they are idiots who believe shit printed on the side of a bus.

TonightJosephine · 08/03/2019 16:52

I voted remain and would still vote remain.

I don't know anyone who has changed their mind, but then I don't know very many people who voted leave, and I certainly don't know any remainers who would now vote leave. I see some people claiming to have changed from remain to leave on social media but I don't actually believe they are real. I think they're either trolls or hardcore leavers who want to make people think there is more support for leave than ever before.

Ultimately I think most people who voted remain voted with their head (i.e. for logical reasons) and most people who voted leave voted with their heart (i.e. for emotional reasons). That's why no one has changed their minds.

If anything I think the fact that Brexit is turning out to be an epic clusterfuck has simply hardened people's opinions in both sides. Remainers are looking at what is happening and saying, "See, we always said this would be chaos!" and leavers are digging their heels in and saying, "It's only going badly because of the way the EU is treating us!"

If the country has swung from leave to remain it would largely be due to changing demographics, and perhaps people who didn't vote in 2016 realising that actually, this is quite important.

GirlsBlouse17 · 08/03/2019 17:07

I voted leave but would vote remain next time

GirlsBlouse17 · 08/03/2019 17:13

Because they are idiots who believe shit printed on the side of a bus

40 years of negative press by the media and governments may have had more to do with it

themoomoo · 08/03/2019 17:27

Because they are idiots who believe shit printed on the side of a bus
what an excellent riposte. Well done you and your clever remark ( not understanding basic english, but hey ho)

Huggybear16 · 08/03/2019 17:29

Proud leave voters have a lot in common with anti-vaxxers and MLMers - will fully believe any nonsense they are told (if it supports their nonsense agenda), unable to think critically, lack understanding of the consequences of their actions, believe everything will be fine despite evidence to the contrary.

It's not a group that any sane person would be proud to be part of.

KidLorneRoll · 08/03/2019 17:30

And yet we still do not have anyone putting forward a valid reason for supporting leaving the EU. After 9 pages now.

Given that, my proposition is the natural assumption.

TalkinPaece · 08/03/2019 17:33

I just have to hope that the leave voters will take ownership of, and be happy with the outcome.
As they can then take responsibility for making Brexit work

PiebaldHamster · 08/03/2019 17:37

Still remain. I think Brexit is the stupidest lot of backwards-thinking, pig ignorant, xenophobic economically ridiculous shower of shit going.

themoomoo · 08/03/2019 17:48

I just have to hope that the leave voters will take ownership of, and be happy with the outcome.
As they can then take responsibility for making Brexit work

well I was a leave voter and I "take ownership"
unfortunately I'm not a member of the government so I'm not quite sure how you envisage me taking responsibility?

bellinisurge · 08/03/2019 17:53

If we no Deal and the supply chain is fucked so the supermarkets are unreliable you can take responsibility then.

themoomoo · 08/03/2019 17:55

bellini ??? You'd like me to supply supermarkets? This is getting weird

bellinisurge · 08/03/2019 17:56

No, but I will blame you and everyone who voted Leave. And you can be sure that everyone else will.

PiebaldHamster · 08/03/2019 17:58

Proud leave voters have a lot in common with anti-vaxxers and MLMers - will fully believe any nonsense they are told (if it supports their nonsense agenda), unable to think critically, lack understanding of the consequences of their actions, believe everything will be fine despite evidence to the contrary.

And don't forget: blaming everyone else when the consequence of their actions is negative.

themoomoo · 08/03/2019 17:59

ah right, so that's how I "own it" OK.

Parker231 · 08/03/2019 18:00

Leave voters will have to accept personal responsibility for putting the country in the position where our supply chains break down and risk of a return to violence if the GFA collapses.

Leave voters don’t seem to understand how supply chains work. Perhaps they will if they and their family are made redundant when their employer fails.

bellinisurge · 08/03/2019 18:01

Yep. People around you in real life will know how you voted and will blame you. Not randoms like me on the internet. Real people. Who can't get decent food for their kids. Good luck with that.

themoomoo · 08/03/2019 18:02

bellini you're funny.We're back to the apocolypse, aren't we. It must be very stressful being so catastrophic all the time

bellinisurge · 08/03/2019 18:02

Every time you posted some pro Leave bollocks on FB , people who know you saw that.

bellinisurge · 08/03/2019 18:03

No stress here @themoomoo . Because I didn't cause this shit.

AirBiscuit · 08/03/2019 18:05

I voted remain but now I have seen the excellent quality of our politician during the negotiations I have become a firm leaver. I can almost taste the land of milk and honey. Sunny uplands here we come.

Parker231 · 08/03/2019 18:07

Leave voters - how do you think the supply chains will work following Brexit and what is going to happen to the GFA?