AIBU to ask if you changed your opinion about Brexit

[Flyingfish2019]

We had a lot of Brexit threads but I think not about this topic. As somebody who does not live in Britain I wonder if you changed your opinion about Brexit now that you heard that a hard Brexit is most likely. Would you vote different if there was a second vote?

Every time you posted some pro Leave bollocks on FB , people who know you saw that
is that aimed at me?mHow weird that you would think I would post anything at all on facebook. I've literally never posted on it.
Don't make assumptions based on wild guesses love, it doesn't go well

If you kept it secret in real life that you voted Leave, that was a smart move.

bellini I said I never post on facebook. That doesn't mean I purposefully kept it secret.
Most people with decent manners don't ask others how they voted so apart from my husband, I don't personally know how any of my friends / family voted.
Maybe us leavers are just a better mannered group of people?

I live in a Leave area. Every bugger and their spouse is happy to tell the world they voted Leave. I never ask anybody how they voted but I know plenty of idiots happy to shout it from the rooftops.

No I haven't changed my mind.

I have changed my mind about Brexit: it’s going to be even worse than I first thought.

well you must live in an area with a high proportion of ill mannered people.
I take it you're also happy to shout about how you voted in real life?
Each to their own and that but it really is not good manners. May be worth thinking about next time there's a vote of any sort? there's a reason that we have private voting booths

I still struggle with Cameron's utter stupidity in calling the referendum in the first place. He has so much to answer for.
Staunch remainer here. I wish I could emigrate, and I really hope my DCs do.

Voted leave

Would do the same100 times over.

Lovely

All this talk of "sunlit uplands, unicorns", etc does make me think rather of a 'rose-tinted' view of the EU. All the problems we have now within the UK have started within the UK's membership - no magic wands were waived, no dashing MEPs on white chargers swooping in.

Really, people who are so staunchly remain are a bit stick in the mud types, not daring to question the existing status quo in case they lose a little bit of their share or, god forbid, things might change a bit.

The EU is evolving into a mega-state, and rather similar to the Soviet Union, I see it as unsustainable and prone to 'collapse'. Of course the only other similar examples of Fedaralism are the USA and China - examplars of all that is good in this World?

@Hateisnotgood
The EU is evolving into a mega-state, and rather similar to the Soviet Union
Please explain with links as your quote genuinely does not link to the multiple news sources I read.

Of course the only other similar examples of Fedaralism are the USA and China - examplars of all that is good in this World?
Not sure the Chinese would want to be regarded as Federal
and the USA is the richest country in the world.

What do Chinese and American governance have to do with Brexit ?

All the problems we have now within the UK have started within the UK's membership - no magic wands were waived, no dashing MEPs on white chargers swooping in.

Can't win really. When the EU passes laws which member states have to comply with they are meddling in the affairs of sovereign countries and should mind their own business. When they don't march in overturning poor policy decisions made by national governments, they're responsible for failing to act.

Maybe the UK's problem is that we vote for idiots like Boris Johnson and have an electoral system which isn't fit for purpose? Just a thought.

Voted leave and not changed my mind.

Talkin - federalism - both USA and China have 'autonomous' States and Provinces within a Federal Govt. There's plenty of links if you care to Google it.

As "Brexit" is very current there actually aren't too many published academic articles on the subject that are relevant to the current position.

So, no linky-links from me, doesn't mean I can't express an opinion though. Or is no opinion valid unless someone else has stated it?

@Hateisnotgood
I have a blue passport
I do not recognise your version of my other country
I also see absolutely no relevance to Brexit.

What do you - personally - expect to change for the better from Brexit?

@ginghambox - now we know what problems are likely to impact us all following Brexit, is there a particular reason why you would still vote leave?

killpop
Stupidity of voting for something that hadn't even been planned beforehand.

What is it that remainers say "it was advisory".
Or here is a thought that might get through your thick skull, maybe leavers thought that the government would plan out what would happen before they activated article 50.

Or is that beyond you comprehension skills?

And my vote is based on what the EU is evolving and attempting to evolve into - a Federalist super-state; in attempt to compete equally with the other Super States. We know the SU collapsed under the pressure - yes, China is the main USA Competitor now - in that environment the EU will always be too weak.

I'd rather not be a part of that. Without the UK, the EU is even weaker in their futile 'global competitor' game.

Short term, it might hurt us - long term, I don't think so.

Boneyback
Your answer confuses me.

Jeremy Corbyn asked for A50 to be invoked on 24 June 2016
Tresemme waited till March
to do the "easiest deal in history"
but its all gone shit shaped because reality intervened

So
What version of leave will you welcome ?
And how would you cope with one of the other varieties ?

hateisnotgood
sorry, still confused
please could you spell out for thickos like me how Brexit will make your personal life better on a month by month basis?

TalkinPaece

Why does my answer confuse you?

Is it because people want different things and thought that the government might talk to each other and come up with a plan?

This repeated bullshit of "you voted for this if you voted leave", its as boring as "you're all thick and racist"

Jeremy Corbyn asked for A50 to be invoked on 24 June 2016

The most inept opposition leader ever, there have been many chjances to change the direction that this has taken and he has done fuck all.

Tresemme waited till March to do the "easiest deal in history" but its all gone shit shaped because reality intervened

Not everyone said that it would be easy and that includes leavers.

What version of leave will you welcome?

We have done that and you have had your answer. (and I actually answered it)

And how would you cope with one of the other varieties?

The exact same way that you will.

And once again.
This is a major fuck up, not because of how people voted (it was only advisory lol), but because the powers that be couldn't get their act together one way or another. And even now we have those that don't have enough backbone to vote out an inept bunch of (insert word of choice) or actually leave their comfy posts but will, maybe almost certainly start a new party that might/could/would/should inspire the people.

What has actually happened once you sort through all of Brexit and associated detritus, is that you have got the government that you deserve and voted for.

Talkin, firstly you aren't a "thicko" at all, I generally find you very measured and intelligent.

On a "month by month" basis I really don't think I, nor the majority, will feel any benefit from Brexit, in fact I do think that things could be very difficult for the first 3 months, then better, then stabilized for the next 6, then dips and troughs in the next 12 months (either stable or slight positive; then the next 2-3 years dipping and troughing to produce a more marked, but small positive in the UK economy.

I definitely expect the conditions of the working 'poor' to have markedly increased and an 'overall' decrease in the UKs 'carbon footprint' and food imports due to more people growing and buying food locally.

Thanks to the influence of The Brexit Cupboard and all that 'ilk' on the nation's 'psyche'.

Boneyback
So you'll be happy with No deal?

I did not vote for Brexit, nor did I vote for Treseme
I want parliamentary reform (have done since before I became British)

TalkinPaece

So you'll be happy with No deal?

Where did I say that?

I want parliamentary reform

Then we have something in common.