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AIBU to ask if you changed your opinion about Brexit

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Flyingfish2019 · 06/03/2019 22:26

We had a lot of Brexit threads but I think not about this topic. As somebody who does not live in Britain I wonder if you changed your opinion about Brexit now that you heard that a hard Brexit is most likely. Would you vote different if there was a second vote?

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FriendOrFaux · 07/03/2019 12:53

I voted Leave. I haven't changed my mind.

However - I don't think we will ever leave. I think there will be a series of extensions, to dull people's desire to leave, and then the whole plan will be shelved.

MeredithGrey1 · 07/03/2019 12:55

Can’t wait to leave.
Just 22 days to go........Whoo Hoo!!!!!

I think you may end up waiting a little longer than that. I'm not saying we wont leave, but I think it will end up being delayed in the votes next week.

Ionacat · 07/03/2019 13:04

Remain and remain again.

If the referendum had been legally binding it would have had to be re-run due the illegalities of the no campaign. This is why so many remainers are unhappy - we are pursuing a policy based on a referendum which was based on illegal action by the winning team. There have been no repercussions for this and people wonder why us remainers are fed up and unhappy.

mrssunshinexxx · 07/03/2019 13:12

Myself and whole family on both sides voted leave and we would again

DelilahfromDenmark · 07/03/2019 13:25

No. Voted remain and this wouldn’t change. I suppose the question is more relevant to Brexiteers. I don’t think many Remainers have changed their opinion.

This was a great quote I saw the other day and it sums up this situation in which we now find ourselves:

In short, our membership of the EU is a racehorse, which we are trading for the promise of a unicorn and so whatever donkey Theresa May brings home from Brussels will never and can never satisfy the expectations either of those who voted for a unicorn or those who were happy with the racehorse.

funnelfanjo · 07/03/2019 16:00

Ardent remainer here. Would not change my vote, but even if we withdrew our Article 50, permenant damage has been done already (EMA has left, many companies like mine have already shifted offices and roles to other EU countries, investment in U.K. cancelled eg Honda).

We can’t live in perpetual limbo, so just rip the bloody plaster off, let’s get on with it on 29th March (even if it means NoDeal) and start putting the country back together again.

Despite being a ReMoaner, I do actually have faith that we are quite an innovative and resourceful population (note - us lot not the political class who have been a total omnishambles with not a single leader amongst them, Gina Miller aside). I can only hope that we use those characteristics to try and compensate for the losses of not being part of the EU, and not have to use them for black market sourcing of essential meds and food.

Life will change over the next few years, in ways we probably can’t really predict. Maybe some things for the better, but I am sceptical and think at best, it will be different if not worse (bye bye nhs).

My plan B involves getting Scottish citizenship via my husband and moving North when they inevitably leave our Union and apply to re-join the EU.

BorisBogtrotter · 07/03/2019 16:03

I do think its funny how the Turkeys are so happy about Christmas though

Frankiestein402 · 07/03/2019 16:09

22 days to go?
Nope - whether it's an extension, agreement on WA, or no deal "negotiations" (aka 'the clusterf*ck') will continue for the 3-10 years it will take to get some kind of deal with the EU agreed.

Heatherjayne1972 · 07/03/2019 16:10

It’s quite interesting that people think it’s going to be all over by the end of March
Not a chance
This is going to rumble on for years probably decades

But yes remain every time here

Biancadelrioisback · 07/03/2019 16:12

@Joey7t8 that was my point.... The end goal may be good but how many people are going to get shat on to get there? And fuck the children, at least this generation. The rich will be unaffected while the poor will struggle to eat. Can't fucking wait

ahtellthee · 07/03/2019 16:15

I voted remain, and would do so again, as would DH. I won't get to vote again as I have been outside the UK for too long now.

My dad has made me promise not to ever bring his grandchildren back to the UK as it's gone to pot. He voted leave and regrets it. My DM thinks TM is a goddess. (She also reads and believes the Daily Mail, bless her).

doIreallyneedto · 07/03/2019 16:17

@Reallyevilmuffin - Looking at the way the EU have been so intransigent during the negotiations the further we are away from them the better.

@summerisgone - The way the EU has behaved since the referendum result has shown me I made the right choice

@surferjet - The way some remainers & the EU have treated us is nothing short of disgusting.

I really find it hard to believe that you cannot see that the current shitstorm is the fault of the UK government and nobody else. The EU have given a lot more than they could have in the WA. The problems are due to the UK's red lines and the fact that they are incompatible with the Good Friday Agreement.

It is not possible for the UK to stick to their red lines and to comply with an international peace treaty that they signed up to. The EU is, quite rightly, supporting Ireland in their insistence that the UK don't piss all over the GFA. Why on earth would you expect anything different? They are hardly going to throw a member state under the Brexit bus simply to satisfy the UK?

TalkinPaece · 07/03/2019 16:21

I do hope that the Leave supporters are happy with how things turn out
and they all get what they voted for
and that the things in their lives they wanted to change actually happen

because otherwise the whole country will be pissed off, not just half of it Sad

Numptysod · 07/03/2019 16:31

Remain

AIBU to ask if you changed your opinion about Brexit
killpop · 07/03/2019 17:04

Stupidity of voting for something that hadn't even been planned beforehand.

AIBU to ask if you changed your opinion about Brexit
Bluntness100 · 07/03/2019 17:10

Op what do you mean hard brexit is most likely? You do understand hard brexit and no deal are two different things. And parliament will reject no deal next week, it's a given, so do you mean a deal is most likely? I think you need to clarify.

Parker231 · 07/03/2019 17:14

I came to the UK from Belgium when I was five but I’ve never got a UK passport so couldn’t vote. I’ll never forgive the leave voters for what they have done. Never thought I would be so pleased and proud I’ve kept my EU passport and therefore I won’t be limited in the future as will UK passport holders. The UK is no longer somewhere I want to live.

ilovesooty · 07/03/2019 17:37

Bollocks have the EU bullied us.

doIreallyneedto · 07/03/2019 17:41

@Bluntness100 - You do understand hard brexit and no deal are two different things.

That's a very important distinction. A hard deal at least would allow the 2 year transition period.

And parliament will reject no deal next week, it's a given

They can reject it all they like but if they don't actually vote for something, no deal will still happen. To date, the one thing they seem to have voted for is an unspecified replacement for the backstop. That's not going to get anyone very far.

TalkinPaece · 07/03/2019 17:45

Bluntness
And parliament will reject no deal next week
No deal happens unless something else takes its place.
What will take its place ?
The WA ?

Cattenberg · 07/03/2019 17:52

Remain then. Remain x100 now.

summerisgone · 07/03/2019 18:09

ilovesooty

bollocks the EU have bullied us!

Corrected that for you

Theworldisfullofgs · 07/03/2019 18:11

Sooty's version is based on actual reality. It's not the same as perception.

Topseyt · 07/03/2019 18:12

Remain then, remain even more strongly now.

I am not an idiot either. Brexit is the most utterly foolish project this country has embarked on in living memory.

The EU is not just one of the biggest trading blocks in the world, but also one of the biggest peace projects. That we may have fired the starting gun which brings about it's downfall is nothing whatsoever to be proud of.

Brexit makes me ashamed to be British.

Parker231 · 07/03/2019 18:18

@Toyseyt - Brexit has made me realise I’m proud not to be British.