School forcing my son to play rugby

[Nearly47]

AIBU to think that it is wrong that the school is forcing my DS to compete in the rugby team?
When we joined I new he had to learn how to play and I have no issues with that. But to compete involves staying late at school twice a week and going to games Saturdays mornings plus he already plays football that's the sport he prefers. I am really annoyed and not sure how to proceed.

The only time participation in sports should be taken into consideration during a selection process is if it is directly relevant.

E.g the sports I did in and out of secondary school were taken into consideration for my uni applications - I did a partial sports course for my degree.

That and the fact that for way too many people PE is a shitshow. Pretty much all the fitness I learnt was out of school stuff and as an adult.

I've got a disability which affects my mobility but not too too badly, I had to sit out of PE through secondary school and read a book. They could have found me sometihng to do but weren't really interested, as it was a sporty school and they were more interested in the ones who were good and the ones who were winning than getting everyone involved.

My career has been pretty successful to date.

Interested to see the PP who prioritises / rewards those who are physically able...

Just goes to show that discrimination is alive and well.

Of course it's not just a way of weeding out people with disabilities, other groups will be impacted by this approach as well. Other protected groups.

Lovely.

They could have found me sometihng to do but weren't really interested, as it was a sporty school and they were more interested in the ones who were good and the ones who were winning than getting everyone involved

That’s dreadful. It makes me very cross.

For me, a school that wins lots of trophies would just be fluff. I would be more interested how they teach fitness and physically skills and how they incorporated SEN and people with Illness ans injuries.

100% would rather my son played Rugby than football. But if it's school policy then you should already know this right?

"When I’m recruiting people after qualifications and experience I will look at people that have played in a team sport."

You need to ask your workplace for some recruitment training then.

Well presumably it is an easy filter for disabled and disadvantaged people. But it's definitely not a myth.

When you think about it, it's a perfect selection technique to weed out not only the disabled and disadvantaged, but also women and people of the wrong race. Shocking, but I absolutely believe it happens.

Meagainagain, i think it's very uncommon for managers to recruit based on what type of ball they have thrown about. IME most managers are fairly clued up on how to choose the best candidate based on competency. True there are some managers who clearly need more training and knowledge regarding how to recruit effectively and morally, but I'd class that as a dodged bullet personally :)

Plus, I reckon some posters are talking out their farter. I don't believe for one minute someone would be dense enough to discount decent candidates just because they didn't throw a round ball round, or failed to add it to their CV.

In jobs where you won't be recruited even with a first if you went to the wrong university, I'm afraid I do believe that some manager think the shape of balls a candidate likes to play with matters.

They get the candidates they deserve I suppose, but other people just don't get the opportunity.

Oh just thought.

DH went to a school v big on rugby and was on team, he was quite good I think.

He has had a few jobs around the place, he's been in his current one for 10 years and it pays OK but it's out in all weathers, shifts etc and he doesn't like it.

I would've expected his rugby team experience to have made him top earner by now while little wobbly me should by rights be a big fat fail.

"When I’m recruiting people after qualifications and experience I will look at people that have played in a team sport."

You need to ask your workplace for some recruitment training then.

I have had plenty of recruitment training thanks and run a very successful department with low percentage staff turn over. With a mix of back grounds, race, gender and disabilities.

Also to another poster since when does disability stop you playing in a team sport.

To clarify if I have interviewed 2 people with similar education and similar experience and there is little between then I will lean to some one who has played in team sports, as from my experience they have developed skills of working as part of a team.

"Also to another poster since when does disability stop you playing in a team sport."

Fucking hell.

I hate the "check your privilege" stuff but this is a great example!!!

Why don't you read up on some of the barriers to people (with all sorts of different disabilities of different levels of severity) accessing sport, huh?

My school told me to sit and read a book during PE.

That right there, you see, is a little barrier.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about, quite frankly.

You silly sod.

Am lol at this really but also, wow.

, it's a perfect selection technique to weed out not only the disabled and disadvantaged, but also women and people of the wrong race.

as it's not about rugby as such, but any sport, it has nothing to do with being a woman or from the wrong race! But nice try

Of course women, poor people, disabled people etc can play team sports.

They just don't seem to as much as wealthier, non disabled men...

This shows that are are not team players and probably not great employees.

Structural barriers to participation don't exist.

This is probably the reason for people who are female or not white or disabled etc not getting paid so well or being in top positions much as well.

Just not team players, sadly.

what are you talking about, disorganised mum?

I swear this country is going backwards at top speed.

The type of sport is irrelevant - if you attend a school with a strong Sports ethos (esp grammar or private) then school commitments come first - same happens with music concerts etc

Yes

And winning is more important than inclusion

This is all fine and awesome.

what are you talking about, disorganised mum?

I am talking about what I witnessed, we had more women being recruited than men last year in some specific companies, they were part of a rowing team, basket ball team, triathlon and the list goes on. Not everything is against women in this world I am afraid.

In a minute someone is going to turn up saying that being a sportsman is a negative in life...

Being in a drama group or playing in a band with your mates teach you just as much about working as part of a team though. But society is run by privileged rah rah white men.

we had more women being recruited than men last year in some specific companies, they were part of a rowing team, basket ball team, triathlon and the list goes on

And you know for a fact their sporting endeavours is why they were employed?

Not everything is against women in this world I am afraid

Thank goodness feminists, your job is done.

When you think about it, it's a perfect selection technique to weed out not only the disabled and disadvantaged, but also women and people of the wrong race. Shocking, but I absolutely believe it happens.

Because women and people of different races don't play team sports?

WTF!!

@wijjjy

"Because women and people of different races don't play team sports?

WTF!!"

Of course they do, but they are statistically less likely to. So if you select people who play team sports you are less likely to select people from certain groups. Why is this so difficult for some people to grasp?