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To be shocked BREXIT is going to affect cancer treatment?

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cantbearsed1 · 06/03/2019 07:49

Just listening to the BBC radio news and they were interviewing an oncologist who said that because of worries about getting hold of enough isotopes straight after BREXIT, Drs have been advised by the Government to book less people into their clinics for both diagnosis and treatment.
This will mean longer waits for diagnosis and treatment from some patients. I was taken aback that such a serious medical issue is being affected.

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prettybird · 08/03/2019 09:38

The NHS is not the HMRC Confused

Here is the evidence that missedtheboatagain such an appropriate name Wink is fraudulently obtaining NHS care. Shock actually, given his other posts, it doesn't shove me

It's from a reasonably reputable source (and in this case, an authoritative one Grin: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/nhs-entitlements-migrant-health-guide

Just to make things easier for him (as I'm not sure he would be bothered actually reading the pesky rules), here is an extract

Hospital treatment
Hospital treatment is free to people classed as ordinarily resident in the UK. This is not dependent on nationality, payment of UK taxes, National Insurance contributions, being registered with a GP, having an NHS Number, or owning property in the UK. To be considered ordinarily resident, you must be living in the UK on a lawful and properly settled basis for the time being.

So his mealy mouthed justifications are just plain wrong and he is nothing that a health benefits scrounger. Hmm

OhYouBadBadKitten · 08/03/2019 09:39

I'm suddenly smelling the strong whiff of bull shit on this thread.

twofingerstoEverything · 08/03/2019 09:40

Yeah lonelyplanet, you couldn't make it up, could you?

BorisBogtrotter · 08/03/2019 09:40

What a suprise, Missedtheboatagain appears not to accurately understand how things work.

I'd missed the bit about NHS care.

Really your fake persona could do with some work.

lonelyplanetmum · 08/03/2019 09:41

*Ohyoubadkitten
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Why suddenly? The whiff was there in all the earlier posts too surely. But due credit to him for being so interested in the affairs of the U.K. from afar.

prettybird · 08/03/2019 09:46

I loved the bit where he asserted that MEPs are not directly elected Grin

doIreallyneedto · 08/03/2019 09:47

@TheElementsSong - here you go. I'm sure you can come up with a few awards too.

Prize for the most uniformed comment on the thread goes to @MissedTheBoatAgain with I don't remember EU objecting to no hard border in Ireland in 1998 so why is it one of their redlines now?

TheElementsSong · 08/03/2019 09:47

Well, my favourite bit was where he didn't seem to realise that agreements between the Irish and "English" (sic) governments are international Grin

lonelyplanetmum · 08/03/2019 09:50

Well my unfavourite bit was where he was big shot high overseas earner with accountants helping avoid or minimise taxes yet the ex(?) spouse with dependents was on benefits.

Cobblersandhogwash · 08/03/2019 09:52

Our government is

  1. Utterly incompetent
  1. Like most Leavers, doesn't understand the wide impact Brexit will have.

But let's dismiss it all as scaremongering.

The British public have been royally conned. And they want more it. It's astonishing.

TheElementsSong · 08/03/2019 09:53

he was big shot high overseas earner with accountants helping avoid or minimise taxes

And yet he was fraudulently sneaking back to use the NHS too.

I'm kind of wondering where the "wahwahwahwah Remainers are rich Elites bullying Salt-of-the-Earth Real Proper Patriotic Leavers" crowd are feeling about that Grin

lonelyplanetmum · 08/03/2019 09:55

* ..doesn't understand the wide impact Brexit will have.*

I think the driving forces in the government do understand it -very well. It's a survival of the absolute fittest mentality unleashed.

prettybird · 08/03/2019 10:04

I missed this one and am just posting it again so that it can sink in....

missedtheboatagain at 8.01 this morning

" I'm beginning to suspect your comments are deliberate, surely no one can be so ignorant of the facts

If posts hit 1,000 or more I will win my bet "

Hmm
ContinuityError · 08/03/2019 10:04

Another classic from Missedtheboatagain worth repeating I think:

Was GFA approved internationally? I thought it was Deal made between the English and Irish governments?

BorisBogtrotter · 08/03/2019 10:13

Since when is their an English government?

So not a former UK national either then?

Lweji · 08/03/2019 10:17

If posts hit 1,000 or more I will win my bet

You also don't know how MN works.

NWQM · 08/03/2019 10:53

We voted out of a huge customs union that not only gave us free trade but had the clout to give us good trade agreements with other parts of the world. How anyone can be surprised it will negatively affect us is beyond me. How anyone can say it's scare mongering by remainers is beyond me. We voted out, of course we'll not keep such favourable trade deals and we'll feel the effects. You can't leave and stay the same.

This sums it up for me.

I'm still waiting on an actual answer as to what positive things leavers expect to see. No-one who I know who voted leave can quite a tangible change.

FiddleFaddleDingDong · 08/03/2019 10:55

Tbh Leavers stopped pretending there'd be any upsides about 6 months ago. The best they can do now is 'we won't die' and 'we won't starve'.

Peregrina · 08/03/2019 10:57

We voted out, of course we'll not keep such favourable trade deals and we'll feel the effects. You can't leave and stay the same.

The Government whining and whining for special deals for 43 years thought it could keep on doing so, and cherry pick the bits it did want while opting out of the bits it didn't. It was then surprised that this time, it had its bluff called.

TheElementsSong · 08/03/2019 11:38

We voted out, of course we'll not keep such favourable trade deals and we'll feel the effects

According to Leavers, experiencing these entirely predictable consequences is "PunishmentBullyingIntransigence" Hmm

MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 11:43

you must be living in the UK on a lawful and properly settled basis for the time being

Being between contracts and living the UK satisfies that requirement.

Entitlement to; child benefit, child tax credit and working tax credit is not related to what the other partner earns. They could be on a monster tax free salary, but it would not change the other partners entitlement to benefits as they are not means tested.

SparklySneakers · 08/03/2019 11:48

And there was me thinking hoping you'd been embarrassed in to silence.

Interesting that you spend so much time on a thread with a subject you know little about, didn't vote on, don't live in this country and don't generally give a shit about what leave is doing and is going to do to the population as a whole, never mind the vulnerable members of our society.

TheElementsSong · 08/03/2019 11:50

Let's just remember this beautiful moment again:

Was GFA approved internationally? I thought it was Deal made between the English and Irish governments?

SparklySneakers · 08/03/2019 11:55

I liked the bit about Scotland being part of England Grin

FiddleFaddleDingDong · 08/03/2019 11:56

Someone on this thread actually asked that?

Embarrassing.

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