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To be shocked BREXIT is going to affect cancer treatment?

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cantbearsed1 · 06/03/2019 07:49

Just listening to the BBC radio news and they were interviewing an oncologist who said that because of worries about getting hold of enough isotopes straight after BREXIT, Drs have been advised by the Government to book less people into their clinics for both diagnosis and treatment.
This will mean longer waits for diagnosis and treatment from some patients. I was taken aback that such a serious medical issue is being affected.

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MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 03:15

given that nearly 50 million people of the population of the UK didn't vote for this

Don't follow your numbers. UK population is around 66 million of which 21% are under 18 and not eligible to vote. So that leaves a eligible voting population of around 52 Million. So how do you calculate that only 2 million voted leave? I remember the Leave voters totaling 17.4 Million.

MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 03:23

Which would be fine if the Majority were the ONLY ones to suffer from their choice, but their choice will punish everyone

Everyone suffered between 1997 and 2010 when Labour was in Power. They admitted that opening the floodgates on immigration was an attempt to drive wages down and turned out to be a mistake.

Had immigration not been a disaster for the UK as a whole then maybe the UK as a whole would not have voted leave?

DryHeave · 08/03/2019 04:10

I bet the government didn’t want this story getting out. It makes me wonder what else they’ve successfully covered up re: Brexit impact.

MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 04:46

Which story? There is no link or reference in your post.

MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 05:03

"They also want leavers sacked 1st if a company closes as a result of brexit. "

Yes, leavers should own what they voted for

If a Company Closes does that not mean that everyone loses their Jobs regardless of how they voted.

SonEtLumiere · 08/03/2019 05:29

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MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 05:35

MissedTheBoatAgain - maybe you could share your opinion of Brexit from the point of view an immigrant? How does it look from your end?

Ex wife is a Non EU immigrant. Never paid taxes in the UK, but the benefits she receives from UK Government exceed my fathers pension after working in NHS all his life.

Her family in her native Country can't believe what she receives every month. It is more than some of them earn in a year!

MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 05:36

Surprise, the racist doesn't even live here. Although I doubt you ever did if you thought Scotland is in England

The short time I did live in the UK was in Edinburgh

frumpety · 08/03/2019 07:11

Missed the UK population is 66.85 million, take away 17.4 million and you get 49.45 million, everyone in the UK will be effected by Brexit. It is a fact that only a minority of the country voted for Brexit, it is a fact that of those entitled to vote at the time of the referendum, a slim majority voted to leave. I think it would be politically expedient for the MP's to remember the 49.45 million when making decisions over the next 3 weeks. Country first, constituents second and party third. Smile

UnspiritualHome · 08/03/2019 07:21

That MEP's in Brussels are not elected has not changed

Huh? You can't be an MEP without being elected.

UnspiritualHome · 08/03/2019 07:27

Had immigration not been a disaster for the UK as a whole then maybe the UK as a whole would not have voted leave

Again, this is fictional. Immigration has been anything but a disaster. What is disastrous currently is the effects of the reverse situation on the NHS, farming, social care, science research, and numerous other vital aspects of our economy.

lonelyplanetmum · 08/03/2019 07:33

I'm also a bit confused -why does some one who was married to a non EU wife (and who presumably got them to move ...and some one who has also lived in a country different to the one they themselves were born in) hold such strong negative views about globalisation and international mobility ?

SparklySneakers · 08/03/2019 07:36

@lonelyplanetmum you'll also find they change between being a man and woman on different threads Hmm

MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 07:42

Huh? You can't be an MEP without being elected

Who were they elected by? The Average person in the street or by other government bodies?

Lweji · 08/03/2019 07:46

Who were they elected by? The Average person in the street or by other government bodies?

It's a direct election.

I think you're confusing with the European Commission. The Commissioners are not elected, in the same way that government ministers in any country are not elected.

UnspiritualHome · 08/03/2019 07:46

Average person in the street, MissedTheBoat. If you are ignorant of absolutely basic information like that, you really shouldn't be commenting on EU issues.

Lweji · 08/03/2019 07:47

@MissedTheBoatAgain
You're just embarrassing yourself.

MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 07:47

Missed the UK population is 66.85 million, take away 17.4 million and you get 49.45 million, everyone in the UK will be effected by Brexit

If you take 16.1 million from 66.85 million you get 50.75 million. So those that did not vote remain is higher than those that did not vote for leave.

Those that were entitled to vote, but chose not to can't be counted as obviously they are not interested whether UK leaves the EU or not. Even if they were counted what makes you certain that would have all voted remain?

IceRebel · 08/03/2019 07:50

MissedTheBoatAgain

As I've already said, if I ever find myself unsure of facts, I either educate myself or stay quiet. I've found it works much better than spouting uneducated statements, especially if you're trying to look informed and knowledgeable about a topic.

I'm beginning to suspect your comments are deliberate, surely no one can be so ignorant of the facts. Hmm

MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 08:00

you'll also find they change between being a man and woman on different threads

No they do not

MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 08:01

I'm beginning to suspect your comments are deliberate, surely no one can be so ignorant of the facts

If posts hit 1,000 or more I will win my bet

frumpety · 08/03/2019 08:13

49.45 million didn't vote for Brexit Missed, which will effect all of us, except your good self Smile

BorisBogtrotter · 08/03/2019 08:20

They admitted that opening the floodgates on immigration was an "attempt to drive wages down and turned out to be a mistake."

Nope, they said they didn't expect so many people to come. However, there was nothing about driving wages down. All of the research into the impact on wages says that its absolutely minuscule (1p per hour in lower pay rises), and utterly negated by the increases in tax threshold.

Interestingly the Migration advisory committee said that the jump in inflation since the referendum, damaged the real wages of the lowest paid more in two years more than the impact of immigration did since 2004.

Oh the irony.

MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 08:24

To Frumpety

Even more than 49.45 million did not vote remain either. Counting both those that chose not to vote and are not eligible to vote is not a good argument for remain.

The mess UK is making of Brexit does affect myself. Since the depreciation of the pound the local currency I am paid in has bought a lot more pounds than before. When Brexit is sorted which will either be a passive remain (May's deal) as the Germans call it or a complete U-Turn and the vote leave is ignored then the pound will recover. I will then change my pounds back into my local currency which will be more than the original amount of local currency. Arbitrage it is called.