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To be shocked BREXIT is going to affect cancer treatment?

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cantbearsed1 · 06/03/2019 07:49

Just listening to the BBC radio news and they were interviewing an oncologist who said that because of worries about getting hold of enough isotopes straight after BREXIT, Drs have been advised by the Government to book less people into their clinics for both diagnosis and treatment.
This will mean longer waits for diagnosis and treatment from some patients. I was taken aback that such a serious medical issue is being affected.

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surferjet · 08/03/2019 08:32

The telegraph - 23 Oct 2009

The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and "rub the Right's nose in diversity", according to Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett
He said Labour's relaxation of controls was a deliberate plan to "open up the UK to mass migration" but that ministers were nervous and reluctant to discuss such a move publicly for fear it would alienate its "core working class vote

I give you...... Tony Blair’s labour government.

SalliSunbeem · 08/03/2019 08:33

Soon be free to spend our billions on the NHS, Police, Schools instead of paying into the bloody Europe Union!

I for one don't care for all this speculation, because that's all it is.

surferjet · 08/03/2019 08:35

So yes, you can blame Tony Blair & labour for brexit.

Oh the irony.

funnelfanjo · 08/03/2019 08:37

Don't plan to return to the UK. However, as I British Citizen and pay my own National Insurance I would go to UK for healthcare The NHS is funded from general taxation, not National Insurance. It is free at point of use for all U.K. residents, regardless of their citizenship. If you are not a U.K. resident, then you are not eligible for non-emergency NHS treatment, regardless of your citizenship.

Peregrina · 08/03/2019 08:39

So MissedTheBoatAgain still hasn't answered my questions. He has revealed himself to be a man, which doesn't surprise me, because his posts have all the insight that you get from the average pub bore. Get back to your Pub, you have nothing to contribute - your knowledge of the UK is woeful - I knew more of the basics at primary school.

MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 08:47

If you are not a U.K. resident, then you are not eligible for non-emergency NHS treatment, regardless of your citizenship

Not a problem as I have property and dependents in the UK and I am Domiciled in the UK. Under HMRC Statutory Residence Test gaps in employment of 30 days or more are considered as a distinct break and you become resident again.

When next contract appears you get Employer to issue a Contract that spans a full financial year and has less that 90 days leave per year. Attach that to a P85 and HMRC grants you Non-Residence status from the day you leave the UK.

Been an Expat for decades and know every loophole. Also have a great Accountant and Tax Adviser who is a former HMRC Tax inspector. Between the two of them they have shielded me very well from the nasty claws of HMRC.

MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 08:49

So MissedTheBoatAgain still hasn't answered my questions

With all the post on this thread I can't keep up with all the questions. Post again if you wish. Traffic seems less than yesterday.

Peregrina · 08/03/2019 08:50

So MIssedTheBoatAgain you are an immigrant to your country - let's not bother calling you an 'Ex-Pat', and you boast about how you shaft the country anyway.

twofingerstoEverything · 08/03/2019 08:52

missedtheboat Don't plan to return to the UK. However, as I British Citizen and pay my own National Insurance I would go to UK for healthcare.
You know you are not entitled to do that, right, as the NHS is a residence-based healthcare service? Unless, of course, you are planning on lying about where you are normally resident in order to benefit from NHS care?

Peregrina · 08/03/2019 08:53

Try searching for my name and you will see my questions. I can't see why I should be bothered to help you out with your ignorance, if you can't be bothered to read about which countries make up the UK and how Governs itself, the first part of which is primary school knowledge.

doIreallyneedto · 08/03/2019 08:53

@MissedTheBoatAgain - I don't remember EU objecting to no hard border in Ireland in 1998 so why is it one of their redlines now?

Nobody could really be so stupid as to not understand this.

MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 08:55

So yes, you can blame Tony Blair & labour for brexit

Oh the irony

I know it is hilarious.

TheElementsSong · 08/03/2019 09:04

I don't remember EU objecting to no hard border in Ireland in 1998 so why is it one of their redlines now

I think we should just keep C&Ping this over and over Grin

MissedTheBoatAgain · 08/03/2019 09:05

Unless, of course, you are planning on lying about where you are normally resident in order to benefit from NHS care?

Under HMRC SRT guidelines an Expat becomes resident on the day they return to the UK unless it is part of their leave entitlement. I

The trick is not to sign another contract until after treatment. I have not had to do this so far, but I know many UK born Expats who are older who have done this several times.

I am also an Employee of a UK registered Company. Profits and Dividends are Taxable, but accountant is a star. I pay very little in UK taxes relative to UK earnings. However, that I pay UK tax, all be it a small amount, it entitles me to tap in UK healthcare should the need arise.

BorisBogtrotter · 08/03/2019 09:18

Sorry but newspaper articles stating opinions don't beat the research from Oxford University, the LSE, UCL and the Bank of England which all show the impact on wages of the lowest paid to be negligible, the healthy migrant effect, and the net positive effect of EU immigrants on the UK fiscal budget.

BorisBogtrotter · 08/03/2019 09:20

Why blame Tony Blair?

Unless of course then you are admitting that the reasons for the leave vote was immigration, and as all of the reasons people give for not liking immigration are not factual, then you have to blame xenophobia.

Oh the irony.

TheElementsSong · 08/03/2019 09:22

I don't remember EU objecting to no hard border in Ireland in 1998 so why is it one of their redlines now

Sorry, I just need to boggle at this one again Grin

onegiftedgal · 08/03/2019 09:22

This is what happens when people vote blue.

DogInATent · 08/03/2019 09:23

Been an Expat for decades and know every loophole. Also have a great Accountant and Tax Adviser who is a former HMRC Tax inspector. Between the two of them they have shielded me very well from the nasty claws of HMRC.

You're an immigrant in the non-EU country you work with, your non-EU wife receives UK benefits, but you pay bare minimum UK tax to recive full benefits, and make negligible contribution to the UK economy.

I get it now. You're pro-Leave, and a quick exit, because you're scared shitless by the moves the EU has lined up to address tax avoidance. Your a CF that thinks tax is something that everyone else should pay.

DogInATent · 08/03/2019 09:28

Don't plan to return to the UK. However, as I British Citizen and pay my own National Insurance I would go to UK for healthcare.

Class 2? £2.95/week

BorisBogtrotter · 08/03/2019 09:30

Oh also, "blame Tony Blair."

The single market and the 4 freedoms were a Thatcher driven policy. The accession of Eastern European states was driven by the Major government.

Like most things that leavers say, they give a simple erroneous answer to a complex issue.

lonelyplanetmum · 08/03/2019 09:31

So missedtheboat self-identified as a woman on other threads? That's fine- welcome to the sisterhood.

Now sister, logically how can an immigrant with dependents (who are half non EU?) be so against international globalisation and international mobility? Other nationality ex pats can come to live in other countries too surely?

Also I'm interested Missed - as you avoid HMRC here. Does that mean you a net contributor - so at a level of more than a native born - in your host country?

doIreallyneedto · 08/03/2019 09:32

@TheElementsSong - I don't remember EU objecting to no hard border in Ireland in 1998 so why is it one of their redlines now

Sorry, I just need to boggle at this one again grin

Oh come on now, @TheElementsSong, give credit where it is due. Let me correct it:

As stated by @MissedTheBoatAgain - I don't remember EU objecting to no hard border in Ireland in 1998 so why is it one of their redlines now?

Sorry, I just need to boggle at this one again Grin

lonelyplanetmum · 08/03/2019 09:33

Also why is the non-EU (ex?) wife receiving UK benefits when the ex husband ( wife?) earns so much they need a team of accountants to protect the income? The divorce settlement must have been fairly mediocre?

TheElementsSong · 08/03/2019 09:38

@doIreallyneedto True, I should always C&P it with the original author acknowledged Grin