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To think being slim should be normal for most people.

999 replies

DevilishDebbie · 03/03/2019 18:02

By slim i mean sizes 8 to 12.

Obviously you get a minority who are not in this range naturally but for 80% of people this size should be natural, say they eat a reasonable diet of between 2000-3000 calories.

Im so sick of people at work making out i am abnormally thin for being a size 10. I watch what I eat but dont deprive myself. The same people making me out to be lucky to be slim eat fried chicken or pizza for lunch and seem to be able to demolish a whole pack of biscuits at 3 o clock.

Aibu to think that the normal human man/woman should be a size 8-12 and that to attain or maintain this does not require super human discipline or strength.

OP posts:
Pinkginxx · 03/03/2019 19:14

I get it. I’m a size 8, in my 20’s was a 4-6, always perfectly healthy, and I’ve been called a ‘skinny bitch’ (apparently affectionately 🙄), been told to ‘eat a burger’ etc. Plus the delightful social media posts of ‘real women have curves’, ‘men like meat not bones’ and the like. Yet if you look back at old pictures my body type/weight was the norm.
I would never dream of calling someone a ‘fat bitch’, so why is ‘skinny bitch’ acceptable?

Dorsetdays · 03/03/2019 19:15

Supine. Many posters on here felt it did, Some were nasty so all depends on how you want to read it.

Healthy food can be achieved on a budget and is often far cheaper than takeaways, fast food etc. Would suggest borrowing one of Jack Monroe’s books from the library or googling her recipes.

Lalliella · 03/03/2019 19:15

I’m 6ft tall. Size 12 is unattainable for me. Fuck off with your judgemental post.

Dorsetdays · 03/03/2019 19:15

Hoppity. Are there rules about what you’re allowed to post then for the first time? 🤔🙄

Samind · 03/03/2019 19:16

@calmdownpacino. I said the exact same thing. An adult shaming a child.... Eep!!

WendyCope · 03/03/2019 19:16

Calmdown it is fact, not laughable, nor pathetic, nor predictable. Fact. Poor little boys.

Small, private school. Been told they're obese, mothers think other wise.

CoperCabana · 03/03/2019 19:17

The real curves shit is a drop in the ocean against the vast majority of actresses, models, images of women that we are faced with every day.

Dorsetdays · 03/03/2019 19:17

Samid. Except the difference is she isn’t saying it to their faces and giving them MH issues as a result. 🙄

Supine · 03/03/2019 19:17

Would suggest borrowing one of Jack Monroe’s books from the library or googling her recipes.

Thanks for your kind suggestion but I have no need of them.

HelenaDove · 03/03/2019 19:17

So why wernt those nursing homes serving decent food instead of crap processed food if the former is cheaper?

AstonMartini · 03/03/2019 19:19

Incidentally - you wait till you have a couple of kids and hit middle age, your size 10 smugness will be a far and distant memory

Wait until you're older and have kids

Guess what? I have kids (now late teens) and am middle-aged. I'm also a size 8-10 and have been since forever. It's ridiculous to say that all middle-aged women who have had children are destined to become overweight.

Kaddm · 03/03/2019 19:19

If it was so easy op, there would not be so many of us lazy piggy fatties. Actually you will find people are often overweight because they work so hard at work and/or to look after the people around them, miss a meal time and find themselves hungry and grabbing something quick and easy which will probably be crap. In my case, I look after people and animals and I am bottom of the pile, exhausted and grabbing something crappy. But thanks for your judgement.

Flowerfae · 03/03/2019 19:20

I have to eat under 750 kcals per day to lose weight (1-2lbs per week).. if I ate 2000 I would gain loads. I can't eat bread/pasta because I bloat up and get stomach cramps (IBS) lean meat/fish and veg, I can manage with, but its soooo blimmin boring.

Dorsetdays · 03/03/2019 19:20

Supine. Apologies, the second part of my comment was meant for HelenaDove.

Helena. The nursing homes aren’t providing decent food because they don’t care, it’s far quicker and easier to shove some crap in the microwave rather than cook from scratch.

scarbados · 03/03/2019 19:21

Whatever.

XiCi · 03/03/2019 19:21

I am so, so sad that my slim little DD (10) is mocked and bullied at school for being skinny when she eats normally

Children in general can be really horrible to each other. They will pick on anything. Big nose, spotty skin anything that is slightly out of the norm you will be teased for. That's just school life and you just find ways of dealing with it and become more resilient. I got all sorts of stick for being 'skinny' right up until I left secondary school (I was a normal weight, looked very slim but not underweight) so this is absolutely not a new thing. I was born in the 70s.

ShannonRockallMalin · 03/03/2019 19:21

Skinny does not necessarily equal normal or healthy. My DHs father’s family are naturally extremely thin. My FIL had a heart attack at 40, and has had multiple heart operations since. My DH was on statins at 40 and is being monitored for signs of heart disease. My teen DS is extremely underweight despite eating whatever crap takes his fancy. They all carry their fat around their internal organs so it’s not obvious that an unhealthy lifestyle is taking its toll.

Samind · 03/03/2019 19:22

I'm taller than the average woman. I'm out of a size normal size range for the OP as I dont have a medical issue or disability. A size 16 yet my BMI has never been over 25. As a child, teenager and adult etc we all experience some form of discrimination for different reasons. I don't think a public thread dictating what should be the social norm is acceptable because someone felt the OP was too slim. I HATE adults acting like children and I think Wendy's comments whether her child is suffering or not is disgusting. I hope her daughter feels better with time, love an life experience but having her mother talk about young children and talking about man boobs and thighs etc is not excusable. In any way!!!!!!

feelingverylazytoday · 03/03/2019 19:22

I understand the point about the OP made about clothes sizes. When I was a teenager in the '70s (pre 'obesity crisis') there really were only 3 sizes generally available in the high street - 10,12 ,14 , and most people did fit into those sizes. Now there seems a greater range of sizes, on both ends of the scale.

NameChanger22 · 03/03/2019 19:25

I've been a size 6 - 8. I'm now a size 14. I much prefer being a size 14 because it means I can eat healthy meals, not live on diet coke and cigarettes like I used to when I was thin.

Lovingit81 · 03/03/2019 19:25

I know where you're coming from OP and there are elements I agree with. However (and it's a big however) your OP was brimming with smugness and a little dash of nastiness. I think maybe working on your tolerance and the way you come across is what should be taking up your time-not this discussion.

BlueSkiesLies · 03/03/2019 19:25

Yes the vast majority of people should be slim - it is perfectly in almost everyone’s capabilities if they ate the right things.

But... food is nice. Sugar is nice. Advertising is rammed down our throats. Healthy eating messages keep changing and there is so much shit advice out there. People are weak willed. People lead sedentary lives. Food is central to so many social occasions.

It should be totes possible. But it’s jot always easy and many people take easy over effort.

missmouse101 · 03/03/2019 19:27

Oh FFS. Yes, it's so bloody easy isn't it. I just give up with twats like you OP. It's NOT normal for me, thanks.

Supine · 03/03/2019 19:28

I would never dream of calling someone a ‘fat bitch’, so why is ‘skinny bitch’ acceptable?

I would never use either term but would agree that 'skinny bitch' is deemed less offensive, presumably because skinny is society's ideal and something strive towards whereas fat really isn't. So it's probably meant as a backhanded compliment, although it is rude and should be called out. I know there's a low-cal brand of ice-cream called Skinny Cow so it's something ingrained in our psyche: skinny = positive.
Basically a lot of people have fucked up relationships with weight and body image, and descriptors!

Brilliantidiot · 03/03/2019 19:28

I agree in principle that a certain size will be (or should be) the average and either side of that above/below average. Carrying too little or too much weight is unhealthy, you aim for an optimum weight in relation to your frame, so you're neither end of the scale.
I am unfortunately at the higher end of the scale, it's crept on over the last few years despite me having an active job though I've always been above what I should be in reality. I'm starting to pay for it. I have arthritis now.
But certain factors in my life do affect prioritising focussing on weight loss. Notice I say prioritising. Meaning that yes, if losing weight was my main priority then it'd be easier to focus on, but it's not because of other factors. In a sense yes that's my choice. But currently I need to focus on other things because they are more pressing.
I work nights and permanent and long term nights increases your risk of obesity, for several reasons. One simple one is that you prioritise sleep over anything else, because it is harder trying to sleep in the day for obvious reasons, you're also fighting your body and the natural instinct to sleep at night, sometimes the only thing that gives me a 4am boost to not just keep me awake but alert is sugar. It's bad to do that, I know that, but at 4am when my eyeballs are hanging out and I'm desperate to sleep, a sugar rush stops me feeling that way and makes sure my job isn't at risk by me making mistakes or falling asleep.

But ultimately me saying that hasn't changed anything has it? It hasn't magically changed things for anyone. I know the issues, and I'm aware of them, but it doesn't change the factors currently at play.