To think being slim should be normal for most people.

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By slim i mean sizes 8 to 12.

Obviously you get a minority who are not in this range naturally but for 80% of people this size should be natural, say they eat a reasonable diet of between 2000-3000 calories.

Im so sick of people at work making out i am abnormally thin for being a size 10. I watch what I eat but dont deprive myself. The same people making me out to be lucky to be slim eat fried chicken or pizza for lunch and seem to be able to demolish a whole pack of biscuits at 3 o clock.

Aibu to think that the normal human man/woman should be a size 8-12 and that to attain or maintain this does not require super human discipline or strength.

If I ate 2000-3000 calories per day, I would be the size of a 3 bed semi.

I agree OP. I am so, so sad that my slim little DD (10) is mocked and bullied at school for being skinny when she eats normally, I fact loads! and is a normal weight and now wants to put on weight and cries about it.

It is shocking.

I'm 47 and used to be very slim but have noticed that I have a menopausal belly now! But, still slim.

People eat ALOT more than they need, but you will be accused of 'fat shaming' (whatever that is)

So many sad, bitter and jealous people have totally missed ops point of the post.

Meh, I agree OP. Methinks some of the PPs protest a little too much...

For MOST (ie the 80% OP mentioned) people, slim should be the norm. Seems we're happy to talk about an obesity epidemic in an abstract way but not when it actually means us...

If people read my op, they would see i said 80% of people should be 8/10/12. The other 20% are those who can't through medical reasons or disability.

Fudementally it should be rare to see a morbidly obese person, which was what it was when i was young.

Op - I get you, I think. Being overweight has become normalised.
Obviously everything is relative to height, age, general health etc.
People used to say to me (pre-children) "You don't need to watch your weight - you're so slim"

I had to bite my tongue to not reply that I was slim because I watched my weight.
bad idea to think your post will get much support on here

I am so, so sad that my slim little DD (10) is mocked and bullied at school for being skinny
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People eat ALOT more than they need, but you will be accused of 'fat shaming'

Sympathy only goes one way I see.

YANBU . For millenia people the majority of people woukd be a 10-12. It's a very recent change. I'm a size 14-16 and completely agree with you. I am verging on an obese bmi. but I don't feel that fat as I live in an area with lots of very fat people. It's going to be so awful soon. 25% of kids at year 6 are obese and the parents can't see it.

I am a size 10 or 12 with a healthy BMI (somewhere between 21 and 22). I've decided to jump off the whole diet band wagon and reckon I usually eat about 2000 cals a day. Would say thats reasonably normal. Find all this talk about how we should all eat 1200 cals a day and how you can still be obese at a size 12 etc depressing tbh, its the quickest way to feel that I am failing. Course women are bigger than they once were, surely its partly due to evolution.

I can see the op's point. I don't see the need to mark out what her co-workers were eating. That is what I'd say is shaming.

"Sympathy only goes one way I see."

But it's about their heeeaaaaaaalth!!!

I do rather a lot of exercise but if I ate 2000-3000 calories a day I would most definitely be obese. I probably ate around 2500 a day during marathon training and managed to put on weight.

Anyone who uses the phrase "we have lost sight of..." is generally a cunt.

Now ‘celebrities’ announce how they weigh only 6 stone and have the body of an angel it makes anyone above a size 10 look/feel obese sadly. Everyone is different you can be size 10 but overweight for height or size 10 and underweight. I was 8 stone pre children but size 12. I’m now 10 stone because of insulin and thyroid problems but still a size 12. The guidelines of 2000+ calories a day are actually fairly high and cause you to gain weight more than maintain it. You can do a simple calorie calculator for your height and weight online and I bet most people will be shocked by how much they should eat compared to what they actually have. In an ideal world well all be the size we want and eat what we like without gaining weight, but you have to put the effort in to be fit and healthy regardless of your size and metabolism.

The nasty snarking posts just prove the OP's point tbh. And I'm a good two stone overweight.
Vanity sizing and refusing to allow children to be weighed (and advised by professionals) does none of us any favours.
Nor do abusive comments to an OP who is stating a fact.

Are you saying that because you can eat a whole packet of biscuits at 3, plus eat pizza or fried chicken for lunch and yet stay a slim size 12, that everyone who is bigger is indulging far beyond what you eat?

That if you can easily maintain your weight despite eating high calorific foods, then everyone else could easily do so? If they aren't maintaining a steady weight, then they must surely be shoving lard sandwiches and Desperate Dan pies in their cakeholes?

What a precious, sanctimonious, self-serving world view you hold.

The nasty snarking posts just prove the OP's point tbh.

In what way?

I went to a talk a few years ago by one of the leading obesity researchers in the UK. He is now often on TV. He said that on average people put on (I think) about 20lbs between 20 and about 50. This works out as "overeating" by 7 calories a day. 7 calories is about cashew nut - it's absolutely nothing.

Gosh there are some overly sensitive folks on here, taking it very personally for some reason 🙄

Fully appreciate that people have different body shapes, heights etc so dress size can be an arbitrary measure and BMI can be affected by muscle mass etc. However, Britain is the most obese country in Western Europe and the average dress size is 16 so the OP can’t be totally wrong and it’s something that should concern people. Study after study shows that being overweight is not healthy and the cost to the NHS is rising.

Setting aside medical reasons for being overweight, the OP is correct in that being within a reasonable range should be the norm but it isn’t.

Always wonder why it’s acceptable for slim people to have their body and diet discussed, often disparagingly, but not the other way round?

I see you are new to MN OP. I suggest you read a few more boards here before posting threads like this, it will help you ‘read the room’.

I'm a size 12 and overweight. 2000-3000 calories is far too much for me. 1500-1800 maintains the weight I am (which is too heavy).
Not sure what the point of your thread is tbh.

Pmsl! I eat a diet of 1400 - 1800 calories per day and am 2.5 stone overweight. Not everyone is the same op.

Supine I genuinely don't understand your post.

My DD is bullied for being a normal BMI, by boys with man boobs at 10.

She is called 'stick' and 'giraffe' and 'anorexic'

She eats normally and super healthily. Her BMI is normal.

It is affecting her mental health.

I have seen posts about this before, it exists.

Nor do abusive comments to an OP who is stating a fact.

Facts are one thing. People aren't irritated by facts but by the manner in which facts are presented. The OP has a problem with Jim and Joyce at work so she decides to write a snarky post about their eating habits.

We're not talking a Harvard Journal peer reviewed article here.

The OP has a point. You can call her a goady fucker for pointing out fat adults, but it's a disgrace to see the number of properly fat kids around here. They have pretty much no chance of ever being a healthy weight.