To think being slim should be normal for most people.

[DevilishDebbie]

By slim i mean sizes 8 to 12.

Obviously you get a minority who are not in this range naturally but for 80% of people this size should be natural, say they eat a reasonable diet of between 2000-3000 calories.

Im so sick of people at work making out i am abnormally thin for being a size 10. I watch what I eat but dont deprive myself. The same people making me out to be lucky to be slim eat fried chicken or pizza for lunch and seem to be able to demolish a whole pack of biscuits at 3 o clock.

Aibu to think that the normal human man/woman should be a size 8-12 and that to attain or maintain this does not require super human discipline or strength.

Yep you’re right Alicatz everyone whos gained weight did so because they stuffed their faces with junk food.

You can’t possibly put on weight by, you know, eating too much food of the non junk type.

*BuffaloSpringfield Thu 07-Mar-19 00:35:31
Moo, more demonizing of larger people being not nice...Its just not true.

Do you restrict?*

If I'm 'demonizing' larger people it's because it is 'larger people' who feel it ok to comment on my weight.

Do I restrict? What bloody sort of warped question is that - are you querying that any thin person restricts food and/or has an eating disorder?? Do you realise how insulting that is? Let me introduce you to the word 'naturally' - it means I'm slim without 'restricting' food.

You are a class A grade example of hypocrisy towards weight.

How can adults genuinely use not liking vegetables as a thing?! You have to eat them because they are good for you! So childish

Easily. Why eat things i dont enjoy simply cos they healthy? All that happens then is eating becomes a chore and i avoid it which is even worse.

So gimme the hot dog and fries for dinner over a steamed skinless chicken breast over a saĺad

Donuts.....yuuuuuuuuuuuummmm

Are donuts a vegetable?

malificent7 Thu 07-Mar-19 23:24:26
Are donuts a vegetable?

Indeed - if they have strawberry jam in

Ketchup is a vegetable according to DS

And Cava has no calories in it on your birthday

One good thing about Brexit - it will put food prices up and reduce choice in the shops so will make eating healthily much simpler

yoursarcasmisdripping

You posted about having plateaued in your weight loss for 6 months and how frustrated you feel. I’m wondering if that is because of what you eat rather than how many calories .

You said that you eat mostly bread, potatoes, energy drinks and pickles. That’s mostly carbs and sugar so it will be keeping your insulin levels very high and stopping you burning fat ( this is my understanding of this, I’m not an expert) .

Have you thought of trying a LCHF diet instead ? You could probably eat twice a much food as you are now and still lose weight. But it would be lots of veg and some protein and no bread, potatoes or energy drinks. So the complete opposite of what you eat now.

Just a thought .

Eating healthy is already simple

'Set Point' is a lie. There is no such thing. There's only underweight, healthy weight, overweight and obese.

TrendyNorth Helena
Good god, people. So you find my saying 2 bloody obvious, logical things such as "something happened to food production which brought on mass acceleration of growth/obesity" and "not eating fatty food regularly keeps someone slim" offensive?! At least this is what I deduct from your imaginative suggestions that I "starve", "puke" and "wank".

You are looking in the mirror, not talking to a stranger; if you think a smiley emogi is "passive-aggressive" that's exactly because this is how you react to things, not what your opponent meant. The one with a hammer will always find a nail.

Yes, there are some body shaming tactics, but not every comment on what causes obesity is, and people like you - who are ready to play "being offended" card at every fucking opportunity - are stalling any debate on the matter.

Yes, there are some people who cannot do anything about their weight, just like there are masses who have bad diets (some of those can change it, others find no time/money to afford the change). And OP is damn right, it isn't normal to be overweight. It's not fucking normal to have breathing difficulties or joint pain due to excess weight. That there is a healthy BMI for everyone (which she unhelpfully expressed in dress sizes and that alone got everyone foaming), anything above that - you get a risk of all sorts of illnesses. And I have no sympathy for the kind of people she mentions in her post, the lot who'll stuff their face and think this has nothing to do with their weight; the folks with no brains and no concept of consequences of their actions, but ready to blame others and "get offended".

"Well, I don't eat pizzas and fry ups every day too, so that helps a bit ;)"

Let's just continue to ignore this part shall we?

Well Bloody Disgrace perhaps you should have thought of that before using a non existent bra size to make your point It made you look stupid.

All I'm saying is you don't see many over weight deliveroo delivery cyclists

Gosh, people in active jobs might burn more calories than those in sedentary occupations. What a revolutionary, mind blowing idea.

Yes - move more, eat less

genius

Incidentally - you wait till you have a couple of kids and hit middle age, your size 10 smugness will be a far and distant memory

My mum had 2 kids and is still the same weight as when she was 18. There's no excuses (other than genetics, for a small minority) for being overweight - we just need to eat less. I agree with OP. Sizes 8/10 shouldn't be seen as "skinny", they're just normal! Just because size 16 is the average doesn't mean that's a good thing - the average person in the UK is overweight.

Totally agree @FieldsOfWheat

My mum has had two kids and is post-menopause. Not only is she the same weight as in her twenties, she has the same measurements - no middle aged spread for her! She has never dieted or restricted in her life either, although she does eat healthily and does daily exercise.

It is correct that being a size 10 has become a distant memory for her though, because vanity sizing!!

I've got an active job, probably not as active as a delivery cyclist, but involves up and down a million stairs, and lifting furniture and cleaning - proper cleaning that works up a sweat not flicking a duster about.
I don't drive, therefore I walk more than those who do, within reason, but I walk to and from bus stops to work and walk places that I can with regard to time.
Dogs get walked 30-60 mins (two walks) days I'm on nights and 60-90 mins days I'm not. Every day.
I also do things like gardening, housework and currently decorating on days off, along with helping a friend with her horse so mucking out/riding 2 days a week.
I'm moving plenty, but it's my hit and miss diet and tight budget that are the problem. I get a meal left for me at work, and it may not be the healthiest but you know what, it's food that keeps me going and costs me nothing.
What some of you so sanctimony call excuses are actually life for others. I am not particularly bothered that I'm overweight, the pounds I'm concerned with right now are the ones in my bank account. When life eases off again - as we all experience, I can turn my attention back. Just seems that some people cannot get their head around that it's not a priority for some - just lazy.

There's no excuses (other than genetics, for a small minority) for being overweight

@FieldsOfWheat

Quite a thick comment to be fair.

I dont know, is this enough of an excuse for you?

I became overweight as a child after the death of my mother. I was 12. No counselling, no help, virtually no sympathy and expected to go to school the next day like nothing had happened. I turned to food and went from skinny to fat pretty quickly. Some children/teenagers would do the opposite and stop eating ie anorexia...do you also think there's no excuse to be underweight? What about people who turn to drugs or alcohol after an emotional trauma? No excuse?

Sure but we're all different...people say I look podgy at a 10 and fat at a 12. Maybe people are just trying to be nice but going about it wrong?

The sanctimonious and judgemental are sure outing themselves on this thread.

To see a complex issue as 'simple' is so short sighted and naive.

The science might be simple, but eating behaviour and lifestyle ideology is anything but.

I've been poor. Still ate healthily.

@Vulpine

Wow, you're amazing....clearly a much better human being than someone who doesn't eat healthily.