To think being slim should be normal for most people.

[DevilishDebbie]

By slim i mean sizes 8 to 12.

Obviously you get a minority who are not in this range naturally but for 80% of people this size should be natural, say they eat a reasonable diet of between 2000-3000 calories.

Im so sick of people at work making out i am abnormally thin for being a size 10. I watch what I eat but dont deprive myself. The same people making me out to be lucky to be slim eat fried chicken or pizza for lunch and seem to be able to demolish a whole pack of biscuits at 3 o clock.

Aibu to think that the normal human man/woman should be a size 8-12 and that to attain or maintain this does not require super human discipline or strength.

@Bohbell

lovin the usual hypocricy of ppl hurling hatred and abuse at a person and calling her names for asking a perfectly valid question. The ‘why do you care what size people are’ funniest of all.

Why do you care that she cares FFS?!?

Amazing contribution to the thread. Well done! 🏅

Why so defensive of the OP though?

I agree pivott, sizes are ridiculous.

Pivott - given that obesity is the 2nd biggest cause of preventable death talking about the strain on the nhs is highly relevant

She said in the OP she was fed up that her size (10) was treated as abnormally thin by, I assume, bigger colleagues. I can see how that could get irritating - not to mention boring- very quickly. AIBUs have been posted for far less.

Pivott - given that obesity is the 2nd biggest cause of preventable death talking about the strain on the nhs is highly relevant

Yes, it is a problem. It was also not the reason the OP posted. She wasn't concerned about strain on the NHS or the obesity crisis or discussing the reasons as to why there is one.

She's bothered because people feel they can make comments on her weight (which is wrong on both sides). And quite clearly evidenced how little she thinks of 'fat' people.

Let's not kid ourselves that OP is arsed about the strain on the NHS.

I completely feel for you Sarcasm! I was diagnosed with PCOS and I have really struggled with losing weight.

I had to work harder for it and although it did come off, it came off soooo gradually which was so disheartening like you said, feeling you have nothing to show for it.

But I just continued doing what I was doing and accepted that if nothing more came off, then least I knew I was doing all that I can.

You have done sooooo well! Please don't feel disheartened.

I went from a size 18 to 8-10 but that has taken me years! Every body's body is different and those with PCOS unfortunately, have more of a struggle.

You should feel so proud of yourself. And keep doing what you're doing, eventually you will see a difference, just try not to worry or obsess over it too much, don't forget to enjoy life ;)

@PIVOTT. You missed the point of the thread. The OP was saying since when did being an average size 10 become such an oddity that people call it out as being “skinny” and it’s made into an issue.

I agree dress size is not the best measure as it can vary but the OP is right that, as a nation, being overweight has become so much the norm that people who are within the healthy boundaries have actually become the odd ones out.

It is everyone’s business because, not only is it the second biggest cause of death and a massive strain on our services, it continues on into the next generation and the ever increasing levels of childhood obesity should be a concern for us all.

Its obvious to me that @MNHQ are getting off on the drama of this just as much as the sanctimonius ones are. I put fat shaming and mumsnet into google. This place is getting quite the reputation for it.

Helena, there's no need to throw a tantrum just cause people are saying things you don't like. :)

As a whole everyone should strive to be a healthy weight and have a healthy fitness level. Right now BMI categories are in favour.
Loosing weight is difficult for many reasons, but that shouldn’t stop people sharing and supporting one another to be healthy. Likewise excuses for an unhealthy lifestyle should be challenged when appropriate.
Where I work lunchtime not only focused on food eaten but food in the news; Keto, vegan, arsenic in rice....personal comments not really though.

....and this is how eating disorders are triggered.

Its very irresponsible.

I've only ever seen the word fat-shaming on MN so I'm not surprised that's what you find when you google.

Adults can do what they like. But as I said upthread, it's the childhood obesity that we all have to own. Some people are overweight because of illness or disability but in reality that's very few (or the percentage wouldn't be increasing every year). Most people are overweight because they eat too much and don't exercise enough. We have to stop making excuses and letting our children think it's normal to be out of condition, breathless and tired.

Putting an overweight child on a diet, making a low weight a high value thing is going to raise the likelihood of eating disorders. Its far better to push body positivity and not make an issue of it.

BuffaloSpringfield What about having healthy eating habits so that the child isn't overweight?

And the value isn't on low weight , it's on healthy weight. You have perfectly illustrated the OP's point!

You clearly have never had a child with an eating disorder. It starts off being 'careful' and a healthy weight, but spins out of control. If you think a chubby child is undesirable, wait till you have triggered an eating disorder, orthorexia, anorexia and you wish they would just be the weight they were before.

Promoting this insistence on perfection is so so dangerous.

Promoting this insistence on perfection is so so dangerous

It's promoting health, not perfection.

Yes, olly...and so starts very unhealthy anorexia and a possibly short lifetime of misery for the child who gets the message that only thin is good.

Agree trying to please someone who needed me to be perfect is why I ended up with anorexia

no Buffalo, you're so right. Thin is bad. Healthy is bad. Children should be fat. Children shouldn't be able to run around and live long and healthy lives. Children should grow up into obese adults and die or be bedbound by the time they're 60.

Why are you so desperate to push people into disability and an early death?

@BuffaloSpringfield

I agree. Promoting a certain (range of) dress sizes as 'right' or 'normal' for a whole section of women is a surefire way to negatively twist perception and expectation, encouraging people outside that size range to feel inadequate.

More emphasis on strength, fitness and health should be normal. Being confident with heaps of self esteem should be championed. Being a certain dress size should not.

I hope you are well now, Portia!

I suspect some people think they would prefer an anorexic child to an overweight one.

The message that fat is bad, dangerous, undesirable, unattractive can be taken to horrific conclusions.

Give your children the gift of being good enough, and weight not being a value seen as good or bad.

"It's about health!!" The war cry of the concern troll. None of you actually give a shit about the health of other people.

None of you actually give a shit about the health of other people

What an odd comment.

I sort of agree with you...The majority of people now are unhealthy and it's taking a huge toll on our NHS but at the same time I love that all body types are now celebrated so people are proud of their body.

Im losing my daughter to anorexia. She probably wont see 60. Wont have children. Wont ever be happy again. Won't have a normal life or any life at all.

Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.