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To think being slim should be normal for most people.

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DevilishDebbie · 03/03/2019 18:02

By slim i mean sizes 8 to 12.

Obviously you get a minority who are not in this range naturally but for 80% of people this size should be natural, say they eat a reasonable diet of between 2000-3000 calories.

Im so sick of people at work making out i am abnormally thin for being a size 10. I watch what I eat but dont deprive myself. The same people making me out to be lucky to be slim eat fried chicken or pizza for lunch and seem to be able to demolish a whole pack of biscuits at 3 o clock.

Aibu to think that the normal human man/woman should be a size 8-12 and that to attain or maintain this does not require super human discipline or strength.

OP posts:
BlooShampoo · 03/03/2019 23:21

If people read my op, they would see i said 80% of people should be 8/10/12. The other 20% are those who can't through medical reasons or disability

Or because - and bear with me here, I know some people struggle with this - some women are really quite tall, with wider pelvises and shoulders than a woman of average height. Greedy bitches, burdening the health system!

HelenaDove · 03/03/2019 23:24

Why on earth do people come on here to whinge about colleagues, go into work and tell them to their faces that you think they're fat and you're not. FGS

Because if they do that they know the risk of their colleaugue saying no to them when they ask for a favour/cover is higher.

OllyBJolly · 03/03/2019 23:24

I'm with the OP here. I'm a "normal" weight and constantly told I'm too thin, I might be thin outside but fat inside Confused , I must live on my nerves Confused Confused , I need a good dinner. And yes - I've been called a "skinny bitch" followed by the tinkly laugh "just joking".

People can do what they want to themselves but when I take my niece swimming lessons on a Saturday, I could weep when I see the number of obese kids - who way outnumber those that would be "normal" weight.

And I don't have any truck with the just genetics/puppy fat/evolution argument. Look at a school photo from the pre 1990s and compare it to one this year. The number of overweight kids is a terrible indictment on what we're doing to the next generation.

WendyCope · 03/03/2019 23:25

Samind The OP hasn't even been back once, so we'll all be in the DM tomorrow!!! Flowers

Samind · 03/03/2019 23:27

Hahaha thank God we don't have user photos 😂😅😅😅

WendyCope · 03/03/2019 23:28

Olly if I have been told 'I live on my nerves' once more...

I agree with all you say.

WendyCope · 03/03/2019 23:28

Samind Grin Thank God! My roots need doing!

HelenaDove · 03/03/2019 23:30

Look at these children in the 30's. Admittedly some were probably impoverished and underfed. But all those ribs! You'd never see that now

Are you wanting a repeat of the Great Depression. I bet you vote Tory.

sailorsdelight · 03/03/2019 23:30

U ok hun??

HelenaDove · 03/03/2019 23:35

the 1930s was the Great Depression That is really what you think we as a society should be aspiring to?!

i will tell you what has been normalized. Bullying and abuse and not just of people who are overweight

Bullying and towards overweight people, poor people , disabled people has been normalized thanks to reality/poverty porn shows.

THATS whats been normalized.

OllyBJolly · 03/03/2019 23:36

They weren't underfed in the 1980s and 1990s - but there wasn't a Greggs or Krispy Kreme on every corner!

WorraLiberty · 03/03/2019 23:36

No ready meals here, it is Spain and very healthy (apart from chicken nuggets etc which I have never bought as DD wouldn't eat)

What does "It is Spain and very healthy" actually mean?

Around half of the population of Spain are overweight Confused

nutellalove · 03/03/2019 23:39

Eh ? 3000 calories? I'm a size 10-12, eat ~1500 calories and still put on weight. Would be obese if I ate that Much Hmm

HelenaDove · 03/03/2019 23:41

1980s and 1990s is a better comparison.

Comparing it with the 1930s (which is nearly 90 years ago ) its 2020 next year) is monumentally stupid.

Aeroflotgirl · 03/03/2019 23:50

Nope a well balanced diet and exercise is more important than being slim. Being slim does not mean one is healthy. Visceral fat is a killer.

WendyCope · 03/03/2019 23:54

Worra we don't have ready meals, mc donalds, takeaways, Pizza, Chinese, Curry, nothing. God I wish!

All from bloody scratch. I would kill for fish and chips!

But yes, children are overweight (hence daughters bullying) old people are skinny and SO small (from Francos era)

We have Burger King for a treat now and then and people honestly force feed children 'almuzo' in the morning (a whole packed lunch) and 'merienda' in the afternoon (a whole meal before tea!)

This is a new thing.

WendyCope · 03/03/2019 23:58

'Healthy' I mean ALL fresh fruit and veg and made from scratch.

DD has 10 ff and veggies a day.

(Not me, I can't be arsed!)

Siameasy · 04/03/2019 00:05

I have all the conpassion for people struggling with overweight; the “calories in out/exercise more/low fat diet” is a complete dead end because it relies on willpower and the day you eg have a sleepless night with the baby-bam you fail, you crack open the chocolate the crisps the booze. Then you feel like shit and eat absolutely everything in sight

We are fatter than ever on low fat spreads, diet soft drinks and heart healthy (🙄) whole grains.

In the 70s/80s people were said to be overweight due to their “glands”. Well that was dead right and we have always known this. If you want to lose weight you need to understand how to fatten a human in the first place. The key is - insulin, the fat storage hormone. Raised insulin=weight gain. What raises insulin? Glucose aka dietary carbohydrate because as we all learned at school - starch turns to sugar in the blood.

Thus people have been known to eat 3K-4K calories on a severely carb-restricted diet and still lose weight

Defenbaker · 04/03/2019 00:26

@Siameasy - actually, ALL food eventually gets converted into glucose, not just food in the carb group (although I think that protein takes longer to digest/break down than carbs). Carbs have been demonised but like anything else, they're fine, in moderation. Mind you, sugar is a carb, and sugar is empty calories. Some say that sugar is more addictive than crack cocaine! I am definitely a sugarholic, and though I have cut down over recent years, I would really miss sweet things if I gave them up completely.

Oliversmumsarmy · 04/03/2019 00:33

DevilishDebbie isn’t size 10 nowadays considered a bit overweight.

I eat between 1400-1700 calories per day and am a size 16-18.

2000-3000 calories and I would be auditioning for my 600lb life.

Bellasorellaa · 04/03/2019 00:37

I’m the slim one at work but I’m also the youngest with no kids
I wouldn’t say anyone says any mean comments only that I don’t need to be on a diet etc but that isn’t bad.
I think it’s not fair to say everyone should be slim everyone is built different and likes different foods or have cultural diets

Someone being fat isn’t harming you is it

Saucy99 · 04/03/2019 00:44

For the poster who said 50% of Spanish are overweight, that's is equivocally incorrect. It's 16.5%
www.almudenaseguros.es/blog/principales-cifras-la-obesidad-espana/

Saucy99 · 04/03/2019 00:44

Never let facts get in the way of your prejudices though.

WendyCope · 04/03/2019 01:16

Spanish don't seem overweight to me, just the small children. It's noticeable. They eat fried crap.

Everyone else is slim and small.

Knitclubchatter · 04/03/2019 01:22

being normal should be normal for most people. right now "normal" is based on BMI and in a perfect world most people will be in the healthy normal range.
but i get the impression their is more to weight gain than calories in calories out and science may discover some gut bacteria issues or changes to the brain that cause overeating.