To think dogs are not the same as human children?

[TacoLover]

I've seen this both on here and IRL, and I have to say it really pisses me off. This isn't just with dogs, I've seen people compare their guinea pig to their child once, saying they couldn't choose between them if they could only save one from a fire but mostly people do this with dogs.

Most of the time when people say this it's a discussion about how they can't believe someone would rehome a dog because they can't cope, they wouldn't rehome a child would they so how is it different, yadda yadda. I don't agree with rehoming a dog without trying your absolute hardest to fix any problems first but ffs a dog is not the same as a human child! I'd hope that a parent would put the needs of their child over the needs of their dog if it came down to it..(doesn't seem so for the guinea pig couple)

AIBU to think it's ridiculous to say a dog is the same as a human child??

Absolute drivel.

...that was at Mama

"we have bred them to be what they we want them want to be"

Sorry for typo.

Saving our own young, as a species, is (I thought) an instinctive imperative.

Your argument OTOH supports "reasons" for abuse cruelty slavery genocide. "Inferior intelligence" has been used as a reason for all those things.

Think about what you are saying.

Prequelle it wasn't really help as such as a beneficial relationship that IMO humans have exploited.

We tend to exploit everything though that is our arrogance as a species.

I'd still save my neighbours kids over my pet, though.

This planet would be better off without humans on it (probably, unless something worse evolved in our place), but while we are here, I think it's only right that we look out for our own young.

OP YANBU.

Competitive dog lovers like the sort you sometimes find on here are weird.

Also, for a site called Mumsnet a lot of people on here don't like children much, but that's a whole other thread.

@SardineQueenII

Google your question to find your evidence, since you don't seem to be able to process mine?

There is no way a dog, sheep, or cow could ever be as intelligent as a human even if we didn't domesticate them as much as we have.

technology is advancing, therefore, human intelligence is growing.

BTW, Humans are inventing things to save the planet.

What are humans inventing to save the planet exactly?

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@ThroughThickAndThin01

People are inventing allot of things. It would be easier for you to google your question rather than for me to list everything.

I’m asking you to list because I don’t believe you.

Have you rung the nspcc yet?

The baby's aunt rung nspcc. Nothing happened. I'm considering ringing again but as they've moved the dog now I'm not sure whether anything would happen..

Don’t know about ‘happily’ being rehomed. Having picked up the pieces from animals being rehomed once a baby comes along, I guess it suits the owners to think that.

My friends who can’t have children treat them as children, it doesn’t bother me, why would it?

Someone once compared their dog loss to a colleague’a baby dying of SIDs at 9 months... I think that’s when I understood the phrase ‘seeing red’

Yes, but it's far more likely for a human to invent things to stop world destruction in the near future, as inventions are happening at a rapid pace due to human intelligence increasing significantly, all of which a dog is incapable of

The kind of people who get a dog, then have a baby, and decide they can’t be fucked with the dog any more - aren’t likely the kind of humans who are going to produce an exceptional human who is going to save the planet.

Yeah mama is talking nonsense.

We are a selfish and destructive species, in the main.

Mama you have done the impossible:
United both sides on a dog thread -
On the basis that you are talking more bollocks than all of us put together

And thus there was a truce.

Froggy the alternative (dogs are better than people) is to rehome the baby though.

I think someone upthread said that would be understandable as many kids are a PITA?

You see both "sides" of this argument can be off kilter.

However we can all unite to say that mama is talking absolute nonsense. So there's that.

Taco your Guinea pig friend sounds weird but people say all sorts of random things.

For example I often say I'm going to go on a diet, exercise and read important literature, but here I am fat, unfit and reading take a break magazine.

When you find someone who has actually sacrificed their child to save a guinea pig, get back to us.

In a real emergency they would obviously grab the kid, and anyway real emergencies are rarely so clear cut, and don't create simple either/or decisions on who to save.

@BlueSkiesLies

Your ''aren't likely the kind of humans who are going to
produce an exceptional human who is going to save the
planet'' is incorrect.

The kind of people that get a dog are the kind of people
who get a dog because they think getting a dog will
be beneficial to them at that time in their lives.

Lifestyles change, it's not always practical to have a dog
when lifestyles change.

The people that get rid of dogs when understanding
that their lifestyle has changed to the point where it is
impractical to have a dog, are intelligent

What are humans inventing to save the planet exactly?

Better birth control would do it.

Or some kind of massive combination of

Diseases we can no longer cure
Extremely violent weather conditions
War of the type that wipes out large numbers of people
Ideologies that work to turn people against each other
Razing of the fertile land for short term profit
And ditto the destruction of our oceans

Those are the things we are currently "inventing" to save the planet (from us)

Or some kind of massive combination of

Diseases we can no longer cure
Extremely violent weather conditions
War of the type that wipes out large numbers of people
Ideologies that work to turn people against each other
Razing of the fertile land for short term profit
And ditto the destruction of our oceans

Those are the things we are currently "inventing" to save the planet (from us)

Or some kind of massive combination of

Diseases we can no longer cure
Extremely violent weather conditions
War of the type that wipes out large numbers of people
Ideologies that work to turn people against each other
Razing of the fertile land for short term profit
And ditto the destruction of our oceans

Those are the things we are currently "inventing" to save the planet (from us)

Sorry for double post

Obviously felt quite strongly

Humans immense adaptability and (natural) drive to procreate etc has utterly fucked this planet.

yes the invention of some things was exciting to humans not so exciting to other species who have no interest in steam trains or hair tongs or beta blockers but a lot of interest in clean water, un-interfered with environments and beign left the fuck alone and not captured selectively bred and turned from wolves to animals that can't even breathe properly

For example

Just to bring the original arguers back in

Because neither "side" is interested in your eugenics shit.

“The people that get rid of dogs when understanding
that their lifestyle has changed to the point where it is
impractical to have a dog, are intelligent”

But not intelligent enough to have realised what was involved in caring for a dog and a baby... even though it’s freely available information?...

Totally agree OP. I dislike dogs for this very reason. My ex seems to love his dogs as much as his 3 children. Don't understand it one bit. Priorities need to be straight