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To think our Prime Minister has lost the plot and is now completely bonkers?

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EthelFechan · 27/02/2019 11:33

We're supposed to be leaving next month.
Theresa May's withdrawal agreement was voted down in Parliament and she didn't even have the good grace to be in the Commons for the results of the latest votes on amendments.

The EU has said there will be no further negotiation on it - so what exactly is TMay discussing with them as she charges around Europe like a dementor?

There's going to be another Meaningful Hmm Vote in two weeks but how can she offer anything new if EU say they won't alter the backstop?

She looks unwell and on edge and please don't anyone say they feel sorry for her - she wanted the job and she's made a total mess of it and I don't see how she can sort it out because she's too stubborn and too vindictive. And incompetent.

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doIreallyneedto · 27/02/2019 12:20

@Gth1234 - The backstop isn't necessary. Leaving the EU is more important than the Good Friday agreement, as far as I am concerned. Ireland is part of the EU. It's a foreign country.

You do know Northern Ireland is part of the UK, don't you? Because your post suggests that you don't.

Even if you do, you don't seem to understand that Northern Irish people can identify as Irish, Northern Irish, British, or any combination of those. This has resulted in the GFA, which is a pretty unique situation and requires an open border, something that would not be possible with no deal.

So you basically think that it is ok to rip up an internationally binding agreement in order to achieve your goal of leaving the EU. Do you really think other countries will trust a country that rips up a deal as soon as it becomes a little inconvenient? I suspect that would not help the UK negotiate deals too easily.

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EthelFechan · 27/02/2019 12:21

You're only just noticing?

Well, no ... I realised she wasn't up to the job when she started laying down her red lines and being antagonistic from the outset really. And I seriously questioned her judgement in appointing Johnson, Fox and Davies to important Brexit (god I hate that word) roles.

But now, I think she is certifiably bonkers and wish there were some measures that could be taken to force her to go on sick leave for her sake and hours.

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MuseumofInnocence · 27/02/2019 12:21

Gth1234, amazing how you can have watched the news for the past few years and get it so spectacularly wrong

BrinkPink · 27/02/2019 12:23

I do think she looks unwell (as you would really). Yesterday I saw her on TV and I thought "what's different about her" - I concluded she had more/different make-up on perhaps to try to cover up looking ill. And she had a kind or supernaturally calm, yet distracted look like someone shortly before they totally lose it.

Yes she is super-stubborn - which may have served her well sometimes but now she's up the shittiest of creeks and doesn't know how to do anything about it except keep pushing forward and being determined and hoping that somehow sheer will can get some kind of result.

I also love that the whole farce has descended into everyone constantly talking about "meaningful votes". It's such a ridiculous phrase - suggesting most votes don't have any meaning, and particularly daft as these ones seem to have even less.

Papillon45 · 27/02/2019 12:23

Less bonkers and more power mad. Clinging on to her position seems to be all she has been interested in throughout this whole process. Some Tory MPs recently said she needs to step down after first phase of Brexit is complete or be forced out by the end of the year to which she said no I have no plans of stepping down.

SpanielEars070 · 27/02/2019 12:25

She's type 1 diabetic.

I would think the stress is sending her body haywire.

MargoLovebutter · 27/02/2019 12:25

I am STUNNED by how ignorant people can still be after 2 fucking years of Brexit.

Margo wanders off despairingly to look for Jerry, Tom and Barbara who probably helped bury May's mother back in 1981 and would obviously have known that NI is part of the UK and not a foreign country.

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EthelFechan · 27/02/2019 12:26

*ours not hours

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BrinkPink · 27/02/2019 12:27

No wonder people can't begin to understand the backstop / NI situation if they don't realise that part of Ireland is part of Britain!

I can suddenly see why some people can't see the problem and think it's all so straightforward! :o

Eatmycheese · 27/02/2019 12:27

@ethel I agree with your observations about her fitness to carry on.
In any other job now she’d have been signed off with or walked due to stress.

I actually think she has mentally crumbled and is just churning up mashed up rehashed soundbites. The endless desperate fruitless dashes are just to literal,y escape the shitstorm here at home.

She should be removed from office and put in a sick bay

Piewife · 27/02/2019 12:29

"charging around Europe like a dementor" 😂

The current situation is absolutely ridiculous. I have no faith in her or the rest of the government. One month to go and still all up in the air.. the world has gone mad!

I do feel a bit sorry for Theresa as the stress must be immense, but really she needs to get on and do her job properly. She chose to take it on.

Wantmyflipflops · 27/02/2019 12:32

what @doIreallyneedto said!!

I didn't vote for Brexit, mainly because I was not convinced by the promises and responses to questions raised around the exact issues we are having today.

Not a fan of TM but don't agree that she is doing this all on her own. I see a lot MPs in the public eye disagreeing with her but not actually offering a solution.

A previously pointed out a lot of Brexit supporters who convinced the public it would be the way forward for us are now no-where to be seen. And TM is actually in a pretty grim situation.

I wonder if the country would vote the same now.

LizzieSiddal · 27/02/2019 12:32

The backstop isn't necessary. Leaving the EU is more important than the Good Friday agreement, as far as I am concerned. Ireland is part of the EU. It's a foreign country.

I cannot believe the ignorance and stupidity. I expect you voted for Brexit

HollowTalk · 27/02/2019 12:34

Ummm NI isn't part of GB.

LizzieSiddal · 27/02/2019 12:35

I think Kurri summed it all up very well. TM is deeply flawed and shouldn't have been PM in the first place.

Mind you she is just marginally better than the even more deeply flawed, Boris Johnson

SusanWalker · 27/02/2019 12:35

I don't feel sorry for TM at all. She laid down all the red lines which led to this mess.

Anyway I highly suspect that in her mind she has done nothing wrong and that the issue is parliament. When it all goes tits up she will blame parliament and believe that she bears no responsibility.

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EthelFechan · 27/02/2019 12:35

What is she actually saying to the EU? Do they realise she's gone bonkers and are gently nodding at her whilst backing out of the room?

Or are they playing mind games with her and are going to throw her a bone to put before Parliament mid March?

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PickleSarnie · 27/02/2019 12:36

Leaving the EU is more important than the Good Friday agreement

WTAF?!? If there is ever a more compelling argument for the case that the general public were just too stupid to be trusted with such a big decision then there's one right there.

Have you ever watched the news or read a book Gth?! Have you any idea of what the Good Friday agreement is for and why it is incredibly important not to break it and risk falling back to the days of the troubles? Euuuurrrrgh. I'm stuck on an island with 17.4 million idiots if you're in any way representative of the average leave voter.

Quintella · 27/02/2019 12:37

Ummm NI isn't part of GB

No but it's part of the UK which i'm sure is what that poster meant.

HollowTalk · 27/02/2019 12:38

I know that's what she meant, but it's annoying that people get so much wrong about NI.

buttermilkwaffles · 27/02/2019 12:42

...so what exactly is TMay discussing with them as she charges around Europe like a dementor?

Not much apparently! (What a farce)
www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/world/europe/brexit-theresa-may-brussels.html

MaiaRindell · 27/02/2019 12:42

David Cameron was too weak to shout down the Eurosceptics in his party so agreed to a referendum. No average person could possibly have understood the ways in which the EU affects our lives, how much economic damage and how we will all be affected. I think the EU has its problems but we are far better in than out. TM thought she could handle this. She couldn't. I did feel sorry for her, slightly, but now I don't. Labour and the Conservatives are in a mess. The whole thing is an utter shit-show.
And the Farage chat? Shock Grin

JinglingHellsBells · 27/02/2019 12:42

I don't think she looks bloated and puffy but she looks knackered as would any 60+ woman who was existing on almost no sleep, Brussels one day, Egypt the next, God knows where the next, PMQ the next, blah blah.

It's the hours, the stress and jet lag.

I'm not her biggest fan but if it were me, and I'm her age, I'd have said F....you lot, I'm off. Her schedule is a nightmare.

user1471426142 · 27/02/2019 12:42

I just despair quite frankly. At least cabinet members are pushing to rule out no deal as they are all to well aware what a shower it will be but my god, there is a month to go and we’re in this ludicrous mess.

QuirkyQuark · 27/02/2019 12:43

Gth are you 18 and totally clueless about what the GFA actually means? I despair with people with this mindset.

I'm guessing TM's diabetes isn't well controlled at the moment and that's why she's looking so poorly. I'm no fan of hers but I do have autoimmune diseases and know how ill you can feel when they're not controlled, so for that I have every sympathy for her.