To think current pop music is telling us something very disturbing about the nation’s youth?

[DonaldTwain]

Watching the Brit awards (I know, why).
Ed Sheehan. Calvin Harris. Sam Smith. All of whom in my day (hitches bosom) would have been pure radio two fodder.
Only grime gives me hope. What the fuck is wrong with kids today? Not enough class As?

FamilyOfAliens I’m 43 I went to a festival last year and I do get my arse out there sometimes to gigs but mostly I’m just a bit lazy and I can’t be bothered to be out every weekend watching bands on the local scene like the old days. More power to you though for keeping the flag flying for us.

Please bring back the Pixies nothing comes close even on R6.

They don’t need bringing back - they never went away! And they’re touring in 2019

Please don't promote drill music . It seems to glorify gang culture and killing. My 17 year old likes it but it's quite shocking however I am old enough to remember "Je T'aime " being banned by the BBC!

They don’t need bringing back - they never went away! And they’re touring in 2019 smile

Ah OK, but I see the legendary Kim Deal is missing in the new line up.

Most older bands have lost a few members along the way, tbf.

And they did go missing for 11 years!

Seen the pixies a few times last at brixton couple years ago, i love them and have for years but they were very bad. just not interested.

went to see the breeders last year they were incredible

so my rec is to spend your money on kim :D

and they played gigantic at the end which was brillaint

breeders had a new album out last year

and fuck me, do they know how to generate a proper old fashioned wall of sound when live :D

I love kim :D

I named my Dd after the two greats - Kim Deal and Kim Gordon :) glad to hear Kim is still going strong!

It's the internet. Or more specifcally, social media. We might get the odd photo from years back scanned in and uploaded to facebook at a house party with a hooch in our hand and that's it. They have the threat of instant upload over them, they can't let their hair down and go a bit wild or silly.. what if someone takes a pic. Everyone will SEE. Family will SEE. Potential employers will SEE. It's been drummed into them, don't do anything you wouldn't want your boss or granny to see. So now they don't.

It's gone the other way, so now they hold themselves to a high level. Their insta perfect accounts need to be aspirational, they are 'influencers' setting a good example to their followers who in turn do what they do. You mess that up with some crazy youth antics and you get unfollowed, blasted on twitter, hate messages etc.

Can you imagine if someone flashed their arse at the brits now? The outrage. I mean there was outrage then, but not on the kind of scale you'd get now.

Hahaha if you all think that young people aren't doing drugs/drinking or having sex then you need to get yourselves to nass festival, or go on a night out in Bristol to motion or Lakota! I have a few friends that went to uni in Bristol and the "sesh" is very much a thing, with people going out and then going back to uni halls or student houses and doing ketamine, cocaine, pills, balloons and smoking weed, and not going to sleep until about midday the next day and even then it's only with the help of Xanax or Valium!!

Most of the music my late teens listen to, isn't the stuff on the Brits, it is musicians they find on Youtube and that kind of thing.

They like some of the 'bangers' as they call them that are played on mainstream channels like Radio 1, Capital, Kiss etc but they have a whole musical 'other world' going on elsewhere.

There are loads of really great bands and singers out there - they're just not necessarily appearing on the Brits.

I don't think Queen were mainstream, I think they just broadened the horizons of popular music.

All the nightclubs I used to go to are now houses :-/ Mind you I was listening to the Craig Charles House Party the other night at work, except DJ Spoony was hosting, and he played loads of Garage from the late 90's, and it was great!!
The 18 and 19 year olds that frequent my house would rather spend their money on their cars, and then play all sorts of weird shit out of their radios in Tesco's carpark rather than go out out!
I drive past them in my focus playing Bon Jovi ;)

Seen both Pixies and Breeders last year, both jam packed with today's yoof, so that's where they're at. Last Melvins gig was like a crèche!

My own teens favour Bowie, Siouxsie Sioux, The Cure, Bauhaus etc.

Modern music-wise, I admit I do quite like Jade Bird.

2 years ago The 1975 were smoking weed under their table at the Brits

I don't think that don't use social media is a very practical solution, neither is trust your mates. Social media is a part of life, if you don't partake, that doesn't mean pictures, comments, or screenshots featuring you won't appear, just that you won't know.

I was at a gig last week in a small club, after the show the artist came down to the bar for a drink and smoke, getting very visibly drunk, and messy. I got talking to a bloke about how every person hounding the singer for a photo, signature or offering to buy him a drink were in their 40's, my dp included. Whilst the younger members generally left him alone.

yma from what my kids tell me Manchester is exactly the same.

Yeah I could see how you'd think stuff like that if you're watching tv or reading the news to try to keep up, most kids live online, once you get into soundcloud, insta, tumblr, youtube etc then you'll start to find the subcultures