To think current pop music is telling us something very disturbing about the nation’s youth?

[DonaldTwain]

Watching the Brit awards (I know, why).
Ed Sheehan. Calvin Harris. Sam Smith. All of whom in my day (hitches bosom) would have been pure radio two fodder.
Only grime gives me hope. What the fuck is wrong with kids today? Not enough class As?

Don't think youngest today have them same need for musuc as back in my day. (I'm officially old now I've said that!!)

There's more for them to do now which helps identify their group (photos/Instagram being one).

All is not lost, in could improve. Certain decades have been quite naff before.

Meh my kids like techno or drum and base or dubstep, whatever sweaty dance club music is called nowadays. I have not a clue about any of it.

They also like a bit of our oldie music; Dylan, Neal Young, Johnny Cash, the Smiths, and the like so all is not lost. I never thought the Brits were in any way cutting edge or reflective of what actual kids like.

I heard Tara Lily the other day. Thought she was really fab.

If this is true about the clubs then it is sad.

This must be why my early 20 somethings are getting home so bright and bushy tailed. I've been wondering. But what's the point in getting hammered in a place with bright lights on to a load of wishy washy music on half volume.

sigh.

Nobody famous ever chokes to death on their own vomit anymore.

There is a lot of great stuff that we never get to hear in the mainstream and, as most people's lives are fairly busy, we may never get a chance to discover.

As I said unthread, 6 Music is where the great new music is at.

Download the BBC Radio 6 app, plug in your earphones and listen anywhere.

You spend years educating about the dangers of drugs and alcohol, making it prohibitively expensive, nightclubs shit and overly policed, and then complain when they actually take it on board and make better choices.

Yes it certainly makes parenting teenagers a whole lot easier! I remember my teenage DD would stay at her friend's house most weekends. I was worried she was up to no good but no she really was there as DFP could vouch. As teenagers we would shimmy down drain pipes at night and go to the local pub and get up to allsorts! We would also raid the drinks cabinet before we left, I can't imagine this sort of thing happening today!

yy 6 music is fab I have it on the DAB on the commute to dip a toe into what new music is about (even though I'm an old gimmer now and the idea of clubbing or to a festival these days fills me with dread).
I suspect even this is just the tip of the alternative scene though, I had to hand in my cool card a loooong time ago,

We young ones don’t watch it anyway it’s for the oldies.

We don’t get rat arsed clubbing as locals the girl Who shit her pants on the dance floor is still shamed regularly for it even outside of the city she did it. It’s not worth it.

We find out music online, we where the generation downloading on limewire and putting it onto our MP3 players to blast our ear drums out.

My toddler quite likes a bit of Ezra boy though the shame. “Mummy mummy play Ezra hot sun!!”

If social media is the problem I would tentatively suggest young people need to
learn to respect their own and others privacy. I realise suggesting they and their narcissistic culture is anything less than admirable is sometimes controversial. But it shouldn’t be acceptable to destroy the privacy of people who are not seeking to be public figures.

I remember when a true artist drowned in someone else's vomit!

You can’t dust for vomit.
True dat Nigel

OP I was literally ranting about a similar thing a few days ago... I went to see a band The Struts .. very glam rock.. at a club venue famous for live music... I went to the front hoping to find the mosh pit and there was NOTHING!!! I got people glaring at me and telling me I was rude for going past them, at one point the bloke behind me pushed me very hard in the back... I thought Yaaay it's starting to become a gig! And then realised he was trying to hurt me because I'd stood in the view of his girlfriend!!! Everyone was just stood like lemons filming on their phones... I wasn't even a tiny bit sweaty at the end of the gig... it's like kids now just don't know how the let go and have fun... 15-20 years ago at the same venue I'd be crushed, squished in the mosh and come out so sweaty I'd look like I'd just had a shower! That was fun! Last week the shit audience completely ruined it... and the band were so high energy and work so hard ... I felt bad for them

Not sure how old you are, gamerwidow but I’m 57 and still going to gigs

Idgaf what’s considered cool. Good music (genuinely good music) will always be so.

Ooh I love a bit of grime. I like most music.

But I remember getting wankered dancing to Pulp & Supergrass. It was shit-hot

@Gulsink

Pink deserves it. She has had a constant 20+ years career. She keeps it real, is a great model role for kids and isn’t up her own arse.

I was just thinking about this OP and you're right

Where are all the bad boys that your parents and teachers disapproved of ?

Everyone is very identikit

Mumsnet is weird. These people who believe drugs and 'cool'. I've not met someone who expresses these views in real life.

Jess Glynne sounds like a goat. DH calls them The Goat Women or The Warbling Women. George Ezra sings nursery rhymes. I'm 59 and the only people I like are Rag n Bone man and Adele.

Teens certainly are still drinking and taking drugs.. they seem to be smoking cannabis at an earlier age than my age group.. and our local unis still have a massive drugs culture!

Hi - young person here! I can assure you that young people today are taking a fuck tonne of drugs - amounts that would make your eyes water. If you’re in the right (or wrong) places, you can’t move for someon are offering you a key or this or a pill of that.
As for the Brits - of course it’s total tosh and always has been!

Oh god and don’t take my awful typos as an indication of the poor spelling of today’s millienials!

George Ezra sings nursery rhymes

Please bring back the Pixies nothing comes close even on R6.

I think you’re taking things a tad too literally huggybear

Yes huggy please chill out.