To think current pop music is telling us something very disturbing about the nation’s youth?

[DonaldTwain]

Watching the Brit awards (I know, why).
Ed Sheehan. Calvin Harris. Sam Smith. All of whom in my day (hitches bosom) would have been pure radio two fodder.
Only grime gives me hope. What the fuck is wrong with kids today? Not enough class As?

But why are they like this
It must be our fault?

I don't get Jack Whitehall , my DDS think he is the bees knees but l think he is smutty and unfunny.

Reaction to the previous generation a la Ab Fab?

I’m a 90s teenager, we had an amazing goth culture and plenty of drugs, I can’t listen to the crap my 12 year old likes, it’s dreadful.

Pound shop Kate Bush has just had me howling. I actually really like Florence but that comment was bloody hilarious!

Drill is the dangerous subculture at the moment but the mainstream media are quite reasonably not too keen on giving it too much of an airing given that much of it is about how marvellous selling crack and stabbing people is.

Lol @gunpowder. We had parties like that in 90s. Someone threw our toilet out of the window at one of our parties 🎉.

I’m nearly 30 and still very very partial to a noisy punk gig in some grotty basement venue

These kids need to get down and dirty to Dwarves and Capdown. Its all so anodyne. But a lot of it is record labels doctoring artists to sell; Ed Sheeran started out rapping about weed, I saw him in a pub about a year before A team came out and it was all just weird rap about getting high. And I thought it was shit.

We should be glad they are like this someone has to look after us in our dotage. Won't be long for me
Pink is good though

I like a bit of grime and I’m nearly 50 so that in itself probably kills any edginess it might have
Drill is not so good as it’s full of amateurs and the sole purpose is calling out other gangs rather than making a really good song. At one time I was working with young gang members in London and the police would send me YouTube links to stuff the people I was working with had uploaded. So I could be alerted to their gang status/affiliations. Ah, me and my colleagues had many a chuckle at some of the god awful lyrics and videos they made. Fun times! But I guess at least they were making music that wasn’t mainstream!

Who's the bloke singing with Pink? Not the one off the record anyway as he's struggling to hit the notes!

They all sit at home Instagramming everything and Snapchatting instead of getting off their faces on White Lightning at the house of whoever's parents were on holiday like we used to do

Nailed
It

Yep - she showed him up that's for sure

We had it better in so many ways - not least because we weren't Generation Rent/Zero hours contracts/worthless degrees/will never get a foot on the property ladder because the cunting generations above us have bought it all!!

Can't blame them for being ultra careful and safe, it's so sad what they've inherited economically. Also, they're the first young adult generation to grow up in a world of wall to wall internet where free porn accounts for more than 60% of internet traffic. They're rebelling against so much by being sensible, which we largely had the freedom and lack of anxiety about prospects to completely avoid. Well, many of us did. Everyone knew the odd boring bastard

Not sure I’m buying the economic insecurity thing. Liverpool in the 50s and 60s wasn’t exactly prosperous or secure.
Surely it’s the opposite problem - all too easy, too spoon fed, they all think they’re fucking marvellous without being asked to prove it

TBF, music aside I do always say that getting drunk or off your tits on drugs doesn't make you 'interesting' either. And when I see young peeps at the gym hanging out together I figure they're pretty smart - the gym membership per month costs less than a round of drinks and they can hang out with their mates while keeping fit. It's a frankly better way to pass your time then down the pub or the rec ground smoking a fat one with your mates.

I can’t believe that the Nan’s favourite, Hugh Jackman, opened the Brits.

We gave them nothing to rebel against and this is what we got.

Until fairly recently I was booking bands and running events in the Metal/Goth/Alternative/Ska scene and there's plenty of young folk out there giving it some welly. Rockabilly is especially youthful right now.
The punk sensibility has returned - everything is DIY now, the internet has been a real game changer in cutting out the middle man.

The mainstream has always been pretty bland.

Minus a few songs here and there it's more reflective of young kids and Asda mums Exactly

The Brits was sadly, predictably shittier than a shitty stick. DD, 15, cleared off after 10 minutes. ‘They are all so terrible’ she muttered as she wandered off to bed.
Now I am personally quite glad she has no interest in drugs and alcohol (yet?!?) and relieved that her musical tastes range from The Clash to The Stone Roses with a wallop of Bowie and The Smiths.
At least they had some passion.

All the 20-somethings I work with are lovely, but boring as fuck. They bring their cars on works nights out.

Just like my daughter . To be fair she was pretty wild in her teenage years which caused us a lot of angst but the second she turned 20 she just stopped drinking. I just wish granny would stop regaling her of my antics when I was her age. Mind you granny is still a bit wild, it's not so long ago she got so pished on holiday she fell in the pool at midnight and dragged my stepdad in with her.

My 14yr old listens to old stuff like Metallica and old things I listened too. She thinks modern music is boring and so do lots of her friends so maybe there is some hope. She is anti social media so maybe that plays a part in it.

@Echobelly

I might be inclined to agree with you, if not for the fact that they then pose shirtless on internet dating sites trying to get an “easy” shag. I couldn’t even tell you how many of these guys messaged me when I was in my 40s ( clear on my profile) and they were in their 20s. I find that pretty seedy tbh. They don’t do it for their health. They do it to pose and get women.

Ha ha! This thread is making me chuckle. I actually came on to talk about Jarvis and his arse! Yes, totally agree, OP, modern music is bland!

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